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Old 02-09-2007, 04:11 PM
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February 10, 2007

Russia's move follows the US decision to locate parts of its controversial missile defence system in eastern Europe.

Russia's hawkish Defence Minister, Sergei Ivanov, revealed an ambitious plan for new intercontinental ballistic missiles, nuclear submarines and possibly a fleet of aircraft carriers.

He said Moscow also would revamp its early-warning radar system.

This overhaul of Russia's military infrastructure would cost around 5000 billion roubles ($A243 billion) over eight years.

The sharp rise in expenditure comes at a time of growing coolness in US-Russian relations.

President Vladimir Putin has been incensed by the Bush Administration's intention to site missile defence systems in Poland and the Czech Republic.

The US says the installations are being built to shoot down possible long-range missiles fired by Iran or North Korea. But Mr Putin says the real target of the missile shield is clearly Russia and its vast nuclear arsenal.

Mr Putin is expected to deliver Russia's scathing response to the US plans in Munich, where leaders are gathering at the weekend.

Defence and security leaders are to meet in the German city to wrestle with issues such as Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iran. Mr Putin and Mr Ivanov will deliver speeches, as will the new Pentagon chief, Robert Gates, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, and Ali Larijani, the key Iranian official for Tehran's suspect nuclear program.

Analysts said Moscow was worried the defence shield in eastern Europe could turn into a Trojan horse.

"This is irritating for Russia," said Yevgeny Miasnikov, a senior research scientist at Moscow's Centre for Arms Control. "When the Soviet Union collapsed, a vacuum was created in the countries of the former Warsaw bloc. The US has tentatively moved into the vacuum and is creating infrastructure that might threaten Russia.

"The Bush Administration's system is not justified. Iran doesn't have a missile capability yet to hit the US. The logical place to put a defence system would be in Turkey, or in Russia itself."

In his speech to Russia's parliament, Mr Ivanov said the military would get 17 ballistic missiles this year, compared with an average of four in recent years.

The plan envisaged the deployment of 34 new silo-based Topol-M missiles and control units, as well as another 50 such missiles mounted on mobile launchers by 2015, he said. Russia has already deployed more than 40 silo-based Topol-Ms.

Writing in a Munich newspaper yesterday, Mr Ivanov said: "The deployment of American missile defence in Europe has not only a military but also a symbolic significance. Fifteen years after the end of the Cold War, a situation is obviously being created in which the continent again can only manage with American protection and with reinforced American military presence."
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Old 02-10-2007, 08:22 AM
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Its just another move in the larger chess game... Russia whilst still in the Red money wise (excuse the pun... ) is getting their act together, and such focus is not driven by goodwill.... its driven by the need to reclaim power and status.... Its a chess game, and the US are taking actions now cos they know how the Chinese, Russians and some new Middle Eastern friends of theirs can present a real threat to EU/US power even presence in a future world...... didnt think I would see such moves so early though....
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Its just another move in the larger chess game... Russia whilst still in the Red money wise (excuse the pun... ) is getting their act together, and such focus is not driven by goodwill.... its driven by the need to reclaim power and status.... Its a chess game, and the US are taking actions now cos they know how the Chinese, Russians and some new Middle Eastern friends of theirs can present a real threat to EU/US power even presence in a future world...... didnt think I would see such moves so early though....
Play Chess to aggressively and you die.

What the fuc.k do we need misslies in Poland for...granted once you put them there...then you may need them. Well, not you EXO...but them.. You know.
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Play Chess to aggressively and you die.

What the fuc.k do we need misslies in Poland for...granted once you put them there...then you may need them. Well, not you EXO...but them.. You know.
lol.... its a fair point, and one that should be raised over a planning conference of some kind before any action of this sort happens... As usual, we only get to see the part picture, but you can be assured that risk analysis is part of the equation.... thus the players in this chess game considered it neccessary to protect their side... granted my view is defensive in nature, but I cant see another screw up like the one in Iraq happening cos of the consequences of pushing Russia, China and its Middle Eastern New Friends even closer together...
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