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Old 12-10-2006, 12:47 PM
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If a meteor hit Israel, and destroyed it....the Muslims would flock to the place when the dust settled I'm sure. It would still be seen as the Holy Land or Crater what have you. Events can be adopted to suit faith oh so easily.
I think if it was anywhere eles in the world then Israel by now would have been acepted.....the region they live in dosnt allow this.......you must say though their buliding settlements in the west back wasnt really an intelligent move.........its a catch 22 situation you can see both arguements.......it all comes down to how you put that arguement across........its one big f***ing mess thats for sure
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Old 12-10-2006, 12:54 PM
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Let's take back the Holy Land!!! Too long have our Christian neighbors been exiled from the land where Jesus died for us! I demand another Crusade!

I'd rather see the Jews have it than the Arabs though
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Old 12-10-2006, 04:10 PM
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Let's take back the Holy Land!!! Too long have our Christian neighbors been exiled from the land where Jesus died for us! I demand another Crusade!

I'd rather see the Jews have it than the Arabs though
lol A crusade against Israel.
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Old 12-10-2006, 04:55 PM
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lol A crusade against Israel.
Yes...But we'll put them in Iraq. Why do you think we invaded it, silly. Iraq is now run by Kurds and Jews. Soon we shall annex the Sudentenland.
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Old 12-10-2006, 05:18 PM
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If a meteor hit Israel, and destroyed it....the Muslims would flock to the place when the dust settled I'm sure. It would still be seen as the Holy Land or Crater what have you. Events can be adopted to suit faith oh so easily.
Then I hope it sinks!
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Old 12-10-2006, 08:05 PM
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Israel is finished anyway - I just don't see a future for a Jewish state there - it should have been set up in Europe. Gotta hand it to Ahmadinejad - he is 100% correct when he asks why the Palestinians are the ones being punished for the Holocaust. If the American public ever really comes to understand the reality of that situation Israel will be LUCKY if things get resolved the way South Africa went post-apartheid. A fair democracy with Jews in the minority is the best they can hope for. While Israel has total military superiority they should be suing for a lasting peace and justice for Jews and Muslims both.
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Old 12-10-2006, 10:00 PM
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Israel is finished anyway

How so?

- I just don't see a future for a Jewish state there -

How would Israel's future there be prevented?

it should have been set up in Europe.

Considering the history of the jews, why?

Gotta hand it to Ahmadinejad - he is 100% correct when he asks why the Palestinians are the ones being punished for the Holocaust.

He denies the Holocaust, if it did not occur how is a group being punished for it.



If the American public ever really comes to understand the reality of that situation Israel will be LUCKY if things get resolved the way South Africa went post-apartheid.

How much of the American public do you think does not know the history of how Israel came to be? I personally learned in 8th grade World History. I'm sure most Americans did too. Putting that together with what is seen or read in the news, is quite easy to the see the reality of the situation.

A fair democracy with Jews in the minority is the best they can hope for.

The last I heard of Israel was a sovreign democratic nation where the Jews are the majority.

While Israel has total military superiority

This is true. It is what keeps them alive, that and her allies namely , the U.S. and the UK.

they should be suing for a lasting peace and justice for Jews and Muslims both.

Their recent actions as far as abandoning settlements have shown me nothing short of pursuing such a peace and working towards the creation of a Palestinian nation. True when attacked they respond harshly, so it would be wise for them not to be attacked to work towards peace. The truth of the matter comes down to the very simple fact that the radicals do not want peace so they provoke Israel at every chance they get. They want nothing short of the destruction of Israel.

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Old 12-11-2006, 02:37 AM
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I think this thread is heading due south into sillyness even trolls like "Jesus hates me more" are compelled to get into the action....

Bottom Line..... Israel need to be held accountable for its criminal use of its military against Lebannon and Palestine.... and the Illegal Parimiliarities need to be held accountable (Hez in Lebannon) and severel in Palestine..... To make any progress on this, Dialogue needs to happen between Israel the affected parties representing the Palestinian Authority; Lebannon; and Syria.... Iran has NO place at the table.... The goal should be 1. Recognition of Israel as a sovereign state with the right to exist. 2. Recognition of a new Palestinian state with defined borders and aid to get it off the ground 3. Resolution of the Golan heights and a new non agression pact with syria and 4. Recognition of Lebannons borders and cessation of all military action against Lebannon, along with war reparations for the unneccessary pain and suffering inflicted by Israel on the Lebannese people. Then friends, you will have the start of real peace...
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Thank you Exo.


The rules should apply to everyone, if you commit a crime you should be punished no matter who you are, war crimes included.
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Old 12-11-2006, 04:55 PM
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Thank you Exo.


The rules should apply to everyone, if you commit a crime you should be punished no matter who you are, war crimes included.
true words.
i sometimes wonder why the US troops can dodge the international laws so often.

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