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Old 01-05-2009, 03:46 PM
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well.. we once again see what goes on in the middle-east and we are all around it.. withnessing it.
well i guess this time its a bit different in a sense.

anyhows...

from the onsite pictures i have seen. the Israeli military is using anything but
guided munitions.

but at this point.. im personally undiceded... the little things point to the conclusion that this
might actually be something personal from the Israeli side.

in anycase.. im not suprised. the sionists have been playing the agressive card since they were
handed one.. especially Americans don't really understand where or what they reprisent.
its just one funny group of people amoung others......

so are those terrorists.. eh?

(just making you think a bit)
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Old 01-05-2009, 04:39 PM
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frankly put i felt first that the Israelis had a legimite grounds to "attack".....


after i have seen how... i return to my old perspective.
colored by the 90's encounter with the Finnish UN force
and Israeli military.
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Old 01-06-2009, 03:16 AM
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well.. we once again see what goes on in the middle-east and we are all around it.. withnessing it.
well i guess this time its a bit different in a sense.

anyhows...

from the onsite pictures i have seen. the Israeli military is using anything but
guided munitions.

but at this point.. im personally undiceded... the little things point to the conclusion that this
might actually be something personal from the Israeli side.

in anycase.. im not suprised. the sionists have been playing the agressive card since they were
handed one.. especially Americans don't really understand where or what they reprisent.
its just one funny group of people amoung others......

so are those terrorists.. eh?

(just making you think a bit)

There are reports that the IDF are using phosphorus and not just for illuminations but against ground targets as well

They have banned foreign journalists from Gaza...for what reasons?
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:08 PM
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There are reports that the IDF are using phosphorus and not just for illuminations but against ground targets as well

They have banned foreign journalists from Gaza...for what reasons?
Just to clear the term for those who are not fermiliar with it

[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorus_(weapon)"]White phosphorus[/URL]

most of the "fairly developed nations" have this type of weapons in their arsenal.
and while mostly used against targets of clear and present danger,
if the IDF was firing airburst WP shells over Gaza....

its in my opinion a quite clear indication that the IDF does no longer make a distiction
from a civilian target or military target, but might have in fact gone "war blind" (because of the Hamaz attacks & "tacktics").
which means that the whole Gaza strip is just a military target for them..

after hearing some stories from the 90's from my country men who served under UN banner
i can easily beleve that. but its not about my opinion or my judgement.
so ill rather drop this subject from my part at this time.

shelling civvies with HC military shells is wrong.. launching rockets to Israels side was wrong..
bombing busses full of civvies is plain wrong. and this whole deal has been wrong so many decades
that nobody there seems to remember whats "right" anymore.
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I don't think anything is "right" in that part of the world nor will it ever be. As long as those in the Gaza Strip continue to put their command & control centers in residential neighborhoods there'll be lots of civilian casualties.
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I don't think anything is "right" in that part of the world nor will it ever be. As long as those in the Gaza Strip continue to put their command & control centers in residential neighborhoods there'll be lots of civilian casualties.

Fair points Glenn, nothing really adds up even of local terms... the west bank for example was a tactical error by IDF Defence Chief Diane in the 1967 conflict. He got caught up with his Dazzling victories in the conflict, and disregarded his initial planning and took the west bank... with no exit strategy.. its festered like a rotton wound since... sooner or later, its gonna have to be fixed...
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Old 01-08-2009, 02:28 PM
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I don't think anything is "right" in that part of the world nor will it ever be. As long as those in the Gaza Strip continue to put their command & control centers in residential neighborhoods there'll be lots of civilian casualties.
well. this is wrong.. that is established. actually IDF doesnt really broadcast anything other
than this unfortunate fact. it suites their motives and it vividly resembles the way nazis
used to use the early recorded media.

still the state of Israel was UN sanctioned new born country.

compare what was [URL="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/UN_Partition_Plan_For_Palestine_1947.png"]sanctioned by the UN[/URL]
[URL="http://www.mapsofworld.com/israel/maps/israel-outline-map.jpg"]
to what israel is now.[/URL]

not saying Israel shouldn't be.. and the surroundings are indeed hostile..
but is it solvable by military means?..
i think not.
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Old 01-10-2009, 04:23 AM
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U.N shouldn't have called for a cease fire I guess. Gets two of their schools shelled, and a relief driver shot. Too bad no foreign journalists eh.

Evil ****.s

The Red Cross and Unicef have also spoken out against Israel in this conflict....will they be shot at as well.

I still know 1 person who supports Israel. I think he will wake up as well though.

May rockets rain on Israel.

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well. this is wrong.. that is established. actually IDF doesnt really broadcast anything other
than this unfortunate fact. it suites their motives and it vividly resembles the way nazis
used to use the early recorded media.

still the state of Israel was UN sanctioned new born country.

compare what was [URL="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/UN_Partition_Plan_For_Palestine_1947.png"]sanctioned by the UN[/URL]
[URL="http://www.mapsofworld.com/israel/maps/israel-outline-map.jpg"]
to what israel is now.[/URL]

not saying Israel shouldn't be.. and the surroundings are indeed hostile..
but is it solvable by military means?..
i think not.
The State has been growing for decades and more and more settlements have been built(Against International law )
Would this be tolerated in modern day Europe?......or North America?

Israel should be allowed to live in peace...but the longer they go about their business like they have been doing.....the more and more I lose sympathy for them

The International community should stand up and say to Israel.....enough is enough

But Im not holding my breath
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Old 01-10-2009, 07:12 AM
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U.N shouldn't have called for a cease fire I guess. Gets two of their schools shelled, and a relief driver shot. Too bad no foreign journalists eh.

Evil ****.s

The Red Cross and Unicef have also spoken out against Israel in this conflict....will they be shot at as well.

I still know 1 person who supports Israel. I think he will wake up as well though.

May rockets rain on Israel.

Happy New Year.
Thats a bit much Common....I think the Israelis have the right to live in peace but they dont do themselves any favours do they?
It almost seems like they have a free rein in that region and do not have to answer to International law whatsoever...and for some odd reason no one seems to want to make them

You would think the Israelis would no something about rapping a race of people.

They are not too far away from becoming the monster that once haunted them
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