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Old 01-04-2009, 05:37 PM
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Well now you guys shown me socialism is bad I guess thanks for the advice!

When did you understand the full implications of socialized programs in the government?
You're trying to prod me now too? I was going easy on you cause you seem like a lost little sheep.

I realized what a joke socialized governmental programs were about 5 years ago. Do you think that socialized medicine works? Command economy? Do you like being told what and how to do something (outside of the military obviously)? I don't think that you GRASP what socialism really is... I think that you probably equate socialism with social justice, but that isn't how it works little boy.
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Old 01-04-2009, 05:40 PM
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You're trying to prod me now too? I was going easy on you cause you seem like a lost little sheep.

I realized what a joke socialized governmental programs were about 5 years ago. Do you think that socialized medicine works? Command economy? Do you like being told what and how to do something (outside of the military obviously)? I don't think that you GRASP what socialism really is... I think that you probably equate socialism with social justice, but that isn't how it works little boy.
No honestly I didn't mean any of that as sarcasm, I always thought Socialism was opposite to Communism, now I see why I am a fool.

Yes I am a lost sheep, I guess I got my facts wrong, sorry everyone for the arguement.

Coloradope, how old are you now?
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Old 01-04-2009, 06:18 PM
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No honestly I didn't mean any of that as sarcasm, I always thought Socialism was opposite to Communism, now I see why I am a fool.

Yes I am a lost sheep, I guess I got my facts wrong, sorry everyone for the arguement.

Coloradope, how old are you now?
Nearly 27. You?

Socialism is not opposite communism. Communism does not exist outside of texts(and if it has existed in history, then it undoubtedly was for a very brief period of time). Communism does not work because egalitarianism is not human nature; that's to say that one person will always come to control, and not everybody in society can nor will be equal. Never will there be rule by consensus for a mass group of people.

Socialism is generally referring to economics. Socialism means that the government dictates how the economy shall be ran through policy and control of many corporate entities. Typically, socialist states have very high tax rates to support social projects such as welfare, pensions, medicine, education, etc. In my estimation, governments are entirely too bureaucratic and inefficient to run themselves let alone anything else. Socialist, or command economies, are generally ran under dictatorships, oligarchies, or as they are sometimes called, 'communist' states.

Most successful nations run a mixed economy. This means that they take some from capitalism and some from socialism. The government generally lets the market act on its own accord, but the government may institute certain economic measures to help prevent recessions & depressions, and also implement social programs such as welfare, socialized medicine, etc.

That about covers it. Socialism=bad
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Old 01-04-2009, 06:23 PM
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Nearly 27. You?

Socialism is not opposite communism. Communism does not exist outside of texts(and if it has existed in history, then it undoubtedly was for a very brief period of time). Communism does not work because egalitarianism is not human nature; that's to say that one person will always come to control, and not everybody in society can nor will be equal. Never will there be rule by consensus for a mass group of people.

Socialism is generally referring to economics. Socialism means that the government dictates how the economy shall be ran through policy and control of many corporate entities. Typically, socialist states have very high tax rates to support social projects such as welfare, pensions, medicine, education, etc. In my estimation, governments are entirely too bureaucratic and inefficient to run themselves let alone anything else. Socialist, or command economies, are generally ran under dictatorships, oligarchies, or as they are sometimes called, 'communist' states.

Most successful nations run a mixed economy. This means that they take some from capitalism and some from socialism. The government generally lets the market act on its own accord, but the government may institute certain economic measures to help prevent recessions & depressions, and also implement social programs such as welfare, socialized medicine, etc.

That about covers it. Socialism=bad
Thanks for covering it . I realize what a fool I am

And I am 15, almost 16 though...
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Old 01-04-2009, 06:35 PM
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Thanks for covering it . I realize what a fool I am

And I am 15, almost 16 though...
I am not about making people realize what fools they are---I just don't like ignorance. You'll get older and realize what the hell life is all about... although that isn't necessarily a promise as there is always much to be learned.
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Old 01-04-2009, 06:40 PM
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I am not about making people realize what fools they are---I just don't like ignorance. You'll get older and realize what the hell life is all about... although that isn't necessarily a promise as there is always much to be learned.
Yeah, I didn't do enough research, lessons to be learnt!

What do you work as? I plan to join the Army or Marines as an officer, but need to talk to a recruiter because I'm not too sure on somethings.
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Old 01-05-2009, 06:42 AM
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Yeah, I didn't do enough research, lessons to be learnt!

What do you work as?
I recently joined the Army as a Psychological Operations (PSYOP) Specialist. Hopefully I'll be in OCS within a year or two.
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I plan to join the Army or Marines as an officer, but need to talk to a recruiter because I'm not too sure on somethings.
Well, being 15, you've some time yet... just keep your nose clean so you don't bullocks up your chances of OCS.
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Old 01-05-2009, 06:43 AM
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I plan to join the Army or Marines as an officer, but need to talk to a recruiter because I'm not too sure on somethings.
If those are indeed you plans then figure on going to college for 4 years & get your Bachelor's degree. The best course for you to take would be ROTC while you're in college. Pick a school with an Army ROTC program or a Navy ROTC program if you want to be a Marine officer.

Another possibility would be to apply for an appointment as a cadet in the U.S. Military Academy at West Point or as a midshipman at the Naval Academy in Annapolis. Your education is free, then.

If none of those paths to become an officer are feasable to you then you can join the Army after college with an Officer Candidate School (OCS) contract.

You're not too young to start thinking about your military career. This is a good time to do your research. A recruiter probably won't even want to talk to you until you're 17.

This is also a good time to start preparing your body by running, doing push-ups & sit-ups so when you enter the military you'll be in great shape.

Please check here for any advise & please stop being an a$$ & use a little bit of decorum, especially if you want to be an officer.
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Old 01-05-2009, 06:47 AM
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If those are indeed you plans then figure on going to college for 4 years & get your Bachelor's degree. The best course for you to take would be ROTC while you're in college. Pick a school with an Army ROTC program or a Navy ROTC program if you want to be a Marine officer.

Another possibility would be to apply for an appointment as a cadet in the U.S. Military Academy at West Point or as a midshipman at the Naval Academy in Annapolis. Your education is free, then.

If none of those paths to become an officer are feasable to you then you can join the Army after college with an Officer Candidate School (OCS) contract.

You're not too young to start thinking about your military career. This is a good time to do your research. A recruiter probably won't even want to talk to you until you're 17.

This is also a good time to start preparing your body by running, doing push-ups & sit-ups so when you enter the military you'll be in great shape.

Please check here for any advise & please stop being an a$$ & use a little bit of decorum, especially if you want to be an officer.
Okay, thanks for the advice

I heard the Navy/Army/RAF can sponsor people to go to university, aslong as you join the army for 5 years after University, is that true?
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Old 01-05-2009, 07:13 AM
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I thought you were American?

There is a programme like the one you have mentioned but I think it depends on what you study at uni and wether it advances and fits in with the job you have chosen in the Forces

I will try and get some information and post it......but do me one favor...stop making pointless arguments with people....its not big and its not clever...you just end up looking like and sounding like a child

I said the same thing to Sconwill in the Israeli thread

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