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Old 09-16-2007, 08:09 AM
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Theres only one problem country in the middle east. Its the one populated by European Arabs. All the other counties hate it and wish to annihilate it. Let em I say and peace will rain in the ***rld once again.

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Lets do mass murder and the natural order of the universe will take its course.. wonder would your theory change, if we strapped you onto the tip of the Nuke before launch??....
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Old 09-17-2007, 01:25 AM
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Ok, first off, who the hell do those liberal bastards think they are pretending to be dead soldiers! If I die in Iraq I want everyone to know that I was proud to die serving my great country and aiding the new democracy of Iraq. By pretending do be dead soldiers they are doing the same thing religous folk do all the time by putting words in the mouths of those who cannot speak for themselves. I hope every last one of those "protesters" are arrested.
I'm watching these "anti-war" people on C-Span right now to try to figure out what these people are trying to accomplish. It's not the "protestors" that I have the problem with, it is the ORGANIZATIONS that seem to have some kind of agenda. For example: "Partnership for "Civil" "Justice", the people behind A.N.S.W.E.R., (I could care less what they say, since those words haven't picked my pocket or broken my bones. These "anti-war" organizations, have shown their true colors and it is great that they are, since people will wake up and realize these organizations do NOT have ANYONE's best interest in mind.
I feel sorry for the people who are in these "anti-war" rally's, but I am VERY su****ious about these groups like "Gold Star Families for Peace" (To me, that sounds like tax exempt familys in favor of feudalism, from what I'm observing from Cindy Sheehan's speech)

As one with Libertarian beliefs, the "anti-war movement", I believe, are actually PRO war.

I would LOVE to go to a "peace rally", wear a old t-shirt I have that says "Ollie North For President" which my older brother in the Marines gave me AT one of these "peace" rallies

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Next, this whole group is looking more and more extremist. What the hell do they think their doing referring to our General as General "Betray Us." That is the most unpatriotic thing I have ever heard of! Its one thing to say you do not support the war, but when you say you do not support the military, you've gone too far. They are handing over the pride of the country to our enemy. They are like a cancer, or a parasite, stirring up civil unrest. They do not deserve the right to call themselves Americans.
You are SO TRUE. Well, at least the leaders of these organizations like
ANSWER and "Gold Star Families for Peace", are actually helping us show who REALLY supports government being everyones parents(I have two parentts, and two parents is MORE than enough parents )
(I think these are the people behind using fearmongering to try to pass facist&tyranical laws like "anti-smoking" ordinances(I think this should be between the business owner and his customers not the job of a third parent.

I also wonder how many of these "anti-war" rallies are funded by the U.N. Since I definately do NOT wish to live in a world of socialism&communism, fascism or tyranny. Maybe the war should be renamed to "The War on Facism" since these "anti-war" organizations
I believe are a danger to our liberties.


I am however glad that the anti-war and pro-war people did get to be heard, even if i disagree with them on a few things, since Im not pro war, nor anti-war, I'm only pro liberty.

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And I am getting sick and tired of people saying that we should pull out of Iraq. Are they all morons! The true reason why we are in Iraq is not something that should be disclosed to the public, because as narrowminded as the liberals are, they would never understand its importance. When president bush said that we would leave a small military presence in Iraq, it made me very happy. I just hope nobody gets elected that intends to screw it up. If we leave Iraq, Iran will eventually invade. We will eventually be forced to go to war with them, in order to defend our allies in Israel. If we leave Iraq prematurely, our war with Iran will be the worst war we could ever imagine. We NEED a safe haven in the region. When we went to war with North Vietnam, we did have such a sancuary, but the war still turned out badly, so just imagine what it would be like without it.
This is where I'm stumped.


(Anything I've said is either from observation or speculation, so therefore this reply might have some information wrong)

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Old 09-17-2007, 05:39 AM
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Ok, first off, who the hell do those liberal bastards think they are pretending to be dead soldiers! If I die in Iraq I want everyone to know that I was proud to die serving my great country and aiding the new democracy of Iraq. By pretending do be dead soldiers they are doing the same thing religous folk do all the time by putting words in the mouths of those who cannot speak for themselves. I hope every last one of those "protesters" are arrested.

Next, this whole group is looking more and more extremist. What the hell do they think their doing referring to our General as General "Betray Us." That is the most unpatriotic thing I have ever heard of! Its one thing to say you do not support the war, but when you say you do not support the military, you've gone too far. They are handing over the pride of the country to our enemy. They are like a cancer, or a parasite, stirring up civil unrest. They do not deserve the right to call themselves Americans.

And I am getting sick and tired of people saying that we should pull out of Iraq. Are they all morons! The true reason why we are in Iraq is not something that should be disclosed to the public, because as narrowminded as the liberals are, they would never understand its importance. When president bush said that we would leave a small military presence in Iraq, it made me very happy. I just hope nobody gets elected that intends to screw it up. If we leave Iraq, Iran will eventually invade. We will eventually be forced to go to war with them, in order to defend our allies in Israel. If we leave Iraq prematurely, our war with Iran will be the worst war we could ever imagine. We NEED a safe haven in the region. When we went to war with North Vietnam, we did have such a sancuary, but the war still turned out badly, so just imagine what it would be like without it.
' I hope every last one of those "protesters" are arrested.'
For what?

'What the hell do they think their doing referring to our General as General "Betray Us." That is the most unpatriotic thing I have ever heard of!'
Really? You need to get out more.

' Its one thing to say you do not support the war, but when you say you do not support the military, you've gone too far. They are handing over the pride of the country to our enemy. They are like a cancer, or a parasite, stirring up civil unrest. They do not deserve the right to call themselves Americans.'
So..........to be an American you have to support the military?
How are they 'handing over the pride of the country to our enemy'?
Are all protesters cancerous, parasitic and revolutionary.....who is allowed to protest in a free society by your standards?
If they are to be refused American citizenship...who are they and where should they go?

'The true reason why we are in Iraq is not something that should be disclosed to the public, because as narrowminded as the liberals are, they would never understand its importance.'
Intriguing that you have such top-secret intelligence, any chance of sharing it with us?

'If we leave Iraq prematurely, our war with Iran will be the worst war we could ever imagine. '
Oh dear, there are so many worse scenarios out there.

'but the (Vietnam) war still turned out badly, so just imagine what it would be like without it.'
That war did indeed 'turn out badly'. You arse was kicked out
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Old 09-17-2007, 11:56 AM
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Yeah, but who gets the be the country that declares and gathers all the countries (or tries to petition other countries)... the US... I caught the last part of some news segment - the jist was something to the effect of ... Germany being tired and fed up with Iran. But instead of dealing direct they say - so because of this, this and this... should the US declare war will support them. GIVE ME A BREAK... if you're tired of them ------ YOU TELL THEM... IT JUST CRACKS ME UP!!!
Well thats because we won WW2 . The German constitution has only recently allowed German troops outside Germany. It boils down to German law.
The role of the Bundeswehr is described in the German Basic Law (Art. 87a) as defensive only. Its only active role before 1990 was the Katastropheneinsatz (disaster control operation), where the Bundeswehr helped against tide or other natural catastrophes. After 1990, the international situation had changed from East-West-confrontation to general uncertainty and instability. Today, after a ruling of the Federal Constitutional Court in 1994 the term defence has been defined to not only include protection of the borders of Germany, but also crisis reaction and conflict prevention - or more broadly as guarding the security of Germany anywhere in the world. According to the definition given by former Defence Minister Struck, it may be necessary to defend Germany even at the Hindu Kush. This requires the Bundeswehr to take part in operations outside of the borders of Germany, as part of NATO or the European Union and mandated by the UN.

But it still early days ....... Japan is going through the same process.
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Old 09-17-2007, 06:34 PM
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' I hope every last one of those "protesters" are arrested.'[/i]
For what?
For obstructing the sidewalk

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'What the hell do they think their doing referring to our General as General "Betray Us." That is the most unpatriotic thing I have ever heard of!'
Really? You need to get out more.
Maybe its just because I don't live in a city of anti-american bastards. My city is pretty patriotic, as is my state

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' Its one thing to say you do not support the war, but when you say you do not support the military, you've gone too far. They are handing over the pride of the country to our enemy. They are like a cancer, or a parasite, stirring up civil unrest. They do not deserve the right to call themselves Americans.'
So..........to be an American you have to support the military?
Yes, the military does not decide who it goes to war with. Politicians do that. So the answer is yes.
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How are they 'handing over the pride of the country to our enemy'?
By showing how fragile the loyalty of the americans are. They are showing the weak side of america.
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Are all protesters cancerous, parasitic and revolutionary.....who is allowed to protest in a free society by your standards?
Those who do not use scare tactics or try to insult people who are dead. And I can assure you, many of those who were impostorized in that protest are in heaven shaking their fists right now.(not that I believe in heaven, but just trying to relate to the majority(christian).....btw I do believe in god)
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If they are to be refused American citizenship...who are they and where should they go?
Mexico, along with every other non-american.

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'The true reason why we are in Iraq is not something that should be disclosed to the public, because as narrowminded as the liberals are, they would never understand its importance.'
Intriguing that you have such top-secret intelligence, any chance of sharing it with us?
No, I have common sence. I have realized why our government is in Iraq, and I know the liberals would disaprove.

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'If we leave Iraq prematurely, our war with Iran will be the worst war we could ever imagine. '
Oh dear, there are so many worse scenarios out there.
Oh shut up, you know what I meant.

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'but the (Vietnam) war still turned out badly, so just imagine what it would be like without it.'
That war did indeed 'turn out badly'. You arse was kicked out
We didn't get kicked out of anything. We experienced a lack of nerve and fortitude. But since you have identified yourself as a foreigner I'd ask you to point out ONE country with a greater fortitude then ours!
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Old 09-17-2007, 06:47 PM
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For obstructing the sidewalk

Maybe its just because I don't live in a city of anti-american bastards. My city is pretty patriotic, as is my state

Yes, the military does not decide who it goes to war with. Politicians do that. So the answer is yes.
By showing how fragile the loyalty of the americans are. They are showing the weak side of america.
Those who do not use scare tactics or try to insult people who are dead. And I can assure you, many of those who were impostorized in that protest are in heaven shaking their fists right now.(not that I believe in heaven, but just trying to relate to the majority(christian).....btw I do believe in god)
Mexico, along with every other non-american.

No, I have common sence. I have realized why our government is in Iraq, and I know the liberals would disaprove.

Oh shut up, you know what I meant.

We didn't get kicked out of anything. We experienced a lack of nerve and fortitude. But since you have identified yourself as a foreigner I'd ask you to point out ONE country with a greater fortitude then ours!
'A lack of nerve and fortitude'........Translation: 'We ran away'

As to naming a nation with more grit & guts than the US, I'm spoilt for choice and won't embarrass you further.

Would you please share with us what your 'realisation' of the Iraqi situation was?

Should I pay attention to the ranting of an idiot that talks about people 'shaking their fists in heaven'.......who doesn't believe in heaven.....who claims to be a Christian...who wants to exile fellow countrymen who disagree with him to Mexico......who, in one paragraph says Americans have greater fortitude than anyone else....and then waflles on about fragile American loyalty?

Hucking fell, no.
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Old 09-17-2007, 06:51 PM
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By the way, I'm English, not a foreigner. Ever considered that you're the foreigner?

The English, that race that along with the Scots, Irish & Welsh, built an empire with more 'fortitude' than most Americans can dream of.
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:50 AM
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By the way, I'm English, not a foreigner. Ever considered that you're the foreigner?

The English, that race that along with the Scots, Irish & Welsh, built an empire with more 'fortitude' than most Americans can dream of.
We're all foreigners some place.
We're not tryin to build an empire sir. We're opening up new market places. Everybody needs a coke!.... Right?

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Old 09-18-2007, 12:36 PM
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Maybe its just because I don't live in a city of anti-american bastards. My city is pretty patriotic, as is my state

Yes, the military does not decide who it goes to war with. Politicians do that. So the answer is yes.
By showing how fragile the loyalty of the americans are. They are showing the weak side of america.
Those who do not use scare tactics or try to insult people who are dead. And I can assure you, many of those who were impostorized in that protest are in heaven shaking their fists right now.(not that I believe in heaven, but just trying to relate to the majority(christian).....btw I do believe in god)
Mexico, along with every other non-american.

No, I have common sence. I have realized why our government is in Iraq, and I know the liberals would disaprove.

Oh shut up, you know what I meant.

We didn't get kicked out of anything. We experienced a lack of nerve and fortitude. But since you have identified yourself as a foreigner I'd ask you to point out ONE country with a greater fortitude then ours!
Calm down son. Its only a discussion. This is a cool site with really nice cheerful people on it. Hold on to your bible and think of something nice in your life. When you get that feel good feeling, rejoice and continue your education with Lord Kurusch master of all the universe.

Bless you both and rejoice in the beauty of discussion
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:01 PM
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Calm down son. Its only a discussion. This is a cool site with really nice cheerful people on it. Hold on to your bible and think of something nice in your life. When you get that feel good feeling, rejoice and continue your education with Lord Kurusch master of all the universe.

Bless you both and rejoice in the beauty of discussion
Dude, you sure you work in Helicopter Firm??.... You sound like my old Battalion Chaplin.. sound guy always with "Praise the Lord.. be happy!".. dude, we all thought he smoked weed when noone was looking... "way too happy" for where we were....
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