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Old 12-07-2008, 05:12 AM
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By David Wroe in Berlin
Last Updated: 9:46PM GMT 03 Dec 2008

German soldiers stationed in Afghanistan have been accused of being too fat to fight the Taliban because they drink too much.

A report by Germany's Parliament found forces in Afghanistan got through more than 1.7 million pints of beer and 92,000 bottles of wine last year.

They are already on track to top those figures this year, with 901,000 pints of beer and 56,000 bottles of wine being shipped in the first six months.

US forces are not allowed to drink, while British soldiers are allowed only small quantities while off-duty.

Earlier this year, another report found that 40 per cent Germany's 3,600 soldiers in Afghanistan were overweight.

This has prompted Reinhold Robbe, Parliamentary Commissioner for the armed forces, to observe: "Plainly put, the soldiers are too fat, exercise too little and take little care of their diet."

There was also a stinging assessment given by the head of Germany's crack commando squad, the KSK.

In a frank outburst, General Hans-Christoph Ammon, whose soldiers are fighting al Qaeda and the Taliban, said the scheme to train Afghan police for which Germany is responsible had been "a miserable failure".

He said the German Government had put just 12 million towards training the Afghan Army and police.

"At that rate, it would take 82 years to have a properly trained police force," he told Deutsche Press Agency.

The fresh criticisms follow a string of accusations against Germany's military effort in Afghanistan, many of which revolve around alcohol.

Last year, American officers complained about a German colonel who was drunk at mission briefings, Der Spiegel has reported.

Thomas Raabe, a defence ministry spokesman, has defended the alcohol intake, saying it amounts to 0.77 litres of beer a day per soldier less than the two 500ml cans they are permitted.

Many Germans oppose their country's involvement in Afghanistan.

Nevertheless, the federal Parliament voted in October to extend the mission and boost the number of soldiers to 4500. Thirty German soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan since early 2002.
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Old 12-07-2008, 12:32 PM
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Well, I guess Octoberfest is an all year activity for the German Army....
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Well, I guess Octoberfest is an all year activity for the German Army....
When they first reported this about two weeks ago, they cited drinking as the problem. Alcohol is strictly prohibited from American and British Forward Operating Bases. That is not the case for the Germans.
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Old 12-07-2008, 12:36 PM
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When they first reported this about two weeks ago, they cited drinking as the problem. Alcohol is strictly prohibited from American and British Forward Operating Bases. That is not the case for the Germans.
German Army are endangering their own soldiers by this policy and any allies they rely on.. Wouldnt find me anywhere near a soldier that has even a can of beer on him whilst on duty... fraction of a second slower in certain situations and its lights out...
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Old 12-07-2008, 02:58 PM
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Hmm.. very interesting. I do tend to gather weight on several times of the year... well Christmas dinner is just around the corner.. but i'm not exactly in active duty am I?

0.77 litres of beer per day is 5.39 litres per week which again is beyand 16 bottles (0.33) per week... well. to be honest I drink more than that.. (you might have noticed)
and i'm just about overweight ATM. i have not even worked out reacently, so
it makes me think that there is something else in the German diet there
which keeps them overweight. as you might know it's not all about the
alcohol it self for the actual fatning effect but also the need to eat
greasy meat with it or afterwards.. especially if the dosage of alcohol
is concentrated to few days of the week. so.. aither they are not
exercising at all or their meals are just crappy..
or they have fallen in love with the local kebab.

its worrysome for sure.. i admit that we do have our own problems
with alcohol consumption from time to time but we tend to keep our
boys in shape.. otherwise its a fast track back to home.
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The Sun newspaper reported on the levels of alcohol consumed by the Germans in Afghanistan a good few months back...it sounds like they are having a good piss up up there...Ive heard the soldiers themselves would like to get stuck in to a more combat roles

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...Ive heard the soldiers themselves would like to get stuck in to a more combat roles

Remember soldiers dont set policy
Are you suggesting they're bored and depressed and are merely self-medicating with the sauce?
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to be honest I drink more than that.. (you might have noticed).
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Old 12-24-2008, 02:23 PM
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Well, I dont know what all the fuss is about, the German soldiers are at war.. they should not be drinking fattening beer.. they should drink Coors Light instead!!...
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