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Old 04-25-2005, 04:57 PM
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Welcome all,

Thought this subject was worthy of it's own thread...

Morale is, and has always been a huge factor in the armed forces, and morale varyes from country to country.
Here's the question for debate...
Which country has the best morale? By best i mean the most effective, basicaly if you were a battalion i/c, which countriy's morale would you most like to have your troops equipped? You can be unit specific if you want...
Personaly I would love to have the classic scottish regiment's morale..The officers, being english and well raised as they are, bimble around looking important, as they do.... The squaddies, and the NCOs meanwhile have the excellent attitude "**** it, why not?"
They are quite possibly the most agressive troops in the face of the enemy since the vikings, if you have ever been around a scottish platton in our days, especialy when they are in the NAFI, you will be scared just sitting there. You won't understand what they say except the odd "feck" and "ye bastard"...
I don't know if you have ever marched to the bagpipes, particulay the black bear march which involved the whole squad screaming in a certain part, but I can tell you it is most incredible thing... if you have ever been to a rock concert and get that feeling when it hits the chorus thats really uplifting..... times that by ten...
Maybee not the most plesent but certainly by far the most agressive....

Incidentaly, scots are also the people i would least like to face aswell....
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Old 04-26-2005, 01:46 AM
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oh chirst not another question of best!!

haha, nah, definately agree with any British regiment on question of morale. The ol' Highlanders (or Blackwatch whatever you call em these days) have a proud history of effective military campaigns, so i'm with them.

However, likewise can be said with the United States' 1st Division, or even the Marines. Their morale is based on their belief that they ARE the best, which in a way is the best way to score goals. (i hope that was an effective metaphor).
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Old 04-26-2005, 07:57 AM
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Well, there is, rather used to be alot of highland regiments, not just the black watch...
These included cavalry and infantry, having a huge history and pride. Now dickface blair has decided, "actually, i don't like having such a good army, i think i'll take away all their money"
so what used to be 5 regiments with history and pride, not to mention healthy competetive spririt, is now 'the scottish regiment'. Trouble is they all hate each other! And they either have to do away with regimental history all together, or spend 2 years teaching it to the squaddies before they start basic training!
Don't know why the queen stands for it, if i was king i would have blair executed, amoung others..

I know it's a 'best' post but atleast I deffined what I mean by 'best'
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Old 04-26-2005, 06:09 PM
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roger on that cheif. It seems that the UK is doing the exact opposite of Australia. We are constantly having money pumped into the Forces, trying to imporve equipment primarily. And since we only have 100 years of history, starting with the Boar War onwards, there isnt too much regiment specific history. We're all just proud to be serving, and know we're damn good to do so. That's that really.

So tell me, do you actually choose which regiment of the Army one can join. I ask this because you said they should teach history to squaddies. Is selection processes for each regiment different??
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Old 04-27-2005, 11:03 AM
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Each regiment has it's own recruiting office... You get interviewed and put through a medical... If they pass that stage they have a fitness test and go through 'basic' training, then onto specialist things such as riding for the household cavalry then armour training...
All this time they do it under their regiment.
But training never really stops, there is a meuseum for every regiment, and most battallions, most soldeirs make it their duty to know regimental history. Other have it drilled in by a conservative officer... through the sgts ofcourse. It is very hard to standardise because every regiment is different.
There is no change in money spent on defense... only money spent on numbers, instead the MoD spends the money on stupid new modernised office blocks and stupid wastes of money like the 'cornershot'.
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Old 05-05-2005, 03:53 AM
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Wow! At least you guys get a choice of which regiment you serve in. With the States, every time you do a PCS move (Permanent Change of duty Station, don't know what you all call it there), you get reassigned to a new battalion and company and so on. My hubby is a welder and he was assigned to a tanker division! Go figure. Of course, with the crazy way the tankers drove their equipment it was no wonder they had their own welder. Anybody outside of the division would have had a **** fit if they saw the stuff my husband had to fix due to non-compliance and stupidity. You can sign up for whatever MOS (job) you want to (provided you score well enough on the proficiency tests before you enter) but you won't always work inside that job. If you are a straight up soldier or Airborne then that's what you'll do but they can still stick you in an office somewhere. Her you are "at the needs of the Army." Wish I had a penny for every time I heard that, I'd be bloody rich by now!
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Old 05-06-2005, 11:00 PM
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we follow the American system, mainly because regimental history and all that doesnt change how effective you are as a team. if it does for the Brits, you guys have seriously got to review your training techniques. getting high on how well your forefathers fought WONT win a ****in battle.


but yeah, join the Army, Navy, or Air Force in this country, and within 18 months you'll be 10 thousand kliks from home doing your job because they WILL NOT give you a choice
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:46 PM
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We all know that good old saying that the British Empire used. "We came, we saw, we conquered" which is still in use with the British army. Without doubt we have fantastic morale, but I dont know about having the best. The yanks with there "kick ***" attitude seems to do em alright, apart from when they seem to take out more allies than enemy! "Shoot first, ask questions later"......words of the American army.
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Old 05-11-2005, 05:10 AM
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the sad reality of an American led war... Itchy Trigger fingers that always seem to find more allies than enemy. But then again, only friendly fire incidents are written about in newspapaers, never the fact that on the same day the allies may have taken out 500 enemy

another sad reality of an American led war... the Press
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Old 05-11-2005, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ozzi-solja
we follow the American system, mainly because regimental history and all that doesnt change how effective you are as a team. if it does for the Brits, you guys have seriously got to review your training techniques. getting high on how well your forefathers fought WONT win a ****in battle.
You reckon so? The british army is the finest in the world, we odviously do something that works.
It is not just regimental history, it is the pride of association, and history bolsters that. A battalion is a closely knit family, that you will be in for a very long time and you will know most people. The battalion colours are held in the highest reverance by a battalion, which bear the battle honers.

Most should know that being in the general mood of 'we are the best' does help, and an urge to hold a good fighting tradition holds on the battlefield.
It also makes amazing healthy competetiveness, each platoon, company, battalionand regiment is always trying to be better, making it work harder to get there, being an upward spiral. The army also does things like sports and has corps of drums, which incidentaly all members of which fight, to keep this pride in one's unit and competetivness with everyone else.
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