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Old 04-03-2009, 01:37 PM
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Default Marines vs Army/Enlisted vs Officer...HELP!

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Hello!

Let me first say "Thank You" to each of you for all or your loyalty, dedication, service and sacrifice, you are greatly appreciated beyond words.

I am 22yrs old, a recent college graduate with a BA in English. I have been out of school for coming up on a year now. I went to college out of state because I don't think that I would have excelled if I would have stayed in my home state near my friends and family; figured they would be a distraction. I can say that I am happy with that decision because I enjoyed every moment of the experience. After graduation I was forced to move back home because of the decline in our economic status and the lack of jobs...period. I want and plan to go to law school with my degree...some way some how. Unfortunately out-of-state tuition has left me hurting and even with working two jobs (Radioshack & New York & Company in our local mall) I barely make enough money to pay rent & utilites and THAT'S LITERALLY IT. At this point I'm desperate to find a way out of this hole and vicious cycle. My parents help is not an option in any way because they can barely do for themselves. I'm the first to go to college on my mother's sides and failure is not an option. I must succeed to prove to my family and younger cousins that the streets are not the only way out. I also refuse to be in the situation that my parents are and WILL NOT bring children into a world struggling financially.

I said all of that to give you a brief on where I am at this point in my life and what I want to do. All my life I've had a plan and the goal was to become an attorney. I don't know what else I would do! So taking into consideration my current financial situation and the glitches of every other option that I've considered, the military gives me the most benefits to reach that goal overall.

The military runs in my family but I never considered it until now. Never thought I was that girl...preferred the easy civilian life! It wasn't until my best friend went to the Army that my aspect on that changed. He told me all the good and all the bad just the same...overall he's been fine and has only learned and seen more than he ever would have had he not gone. After being in a relationship with an Army man, the influence grew...good and bad. I figured that with my situation something is better than nothing and progress (however I may have to get it) is better than stagnation.

As any smart individual would do I'm researching. I wasn't even considering the military as an option until the Army recruiter in the mall where I work got a hold of me; he and three other Sgt's ganged up on me one day at work and persuaded me to at least come in and talk to them! I haven't talked to a Marine recruiter yet but I do plan on it in the next few days. Just wanted some honest experienced opinions on which one would be best for a girl like me, and with what I want to do with the experience and education I look to recieve. The Army is throwing all the benefits at me and the whole J.A.G. factor at me which I am and have been very interested in for a while...sort of my ultimate goal. I consulted one of my close friends that is a Marine and he informed me that the Marines has an equivolent. A friend in the Air Force made the point of going for the Marines because they offer the best of everything all the way around(education, better tools, nicer uniforms, not so nice living quarters but...!)...next to the Air Force of course! Another concern is that I keep being told to NOT to enlist and go in as an Officer, yet the recruiter told me that and Officer has to do 6yrs and that if I did pass the GT with a 110 or higher I still wouldn't get to choose my job (Paralegal Assistant is what I want to do) as an Officer, only as Enlisted...?

Weighing my Pro's & Con's:

Pro's: Student loans paid off, health benefits (which I don't have right now and am sick at the moment!), paid living expenses, education or the funds to get the education when I get out, possible experience in the field I intend to work in when I get out, travel, networking and meeting new people, what else am I doing right now?, discipline, being able to handle hard physical conditons, learning to be more humble, financial stability, expanding my resume, increasing my self-satisfaction, becoming a more versatile woman,making money while doing something not everyone can or will do and doing it honorably.

Cons: Possible deployment, leaving my family and friends, not being able to maintain the freestyle life I have now!, dedicating 2+ yrs of my life to it without the option of quitting

I'm not afraid to go, whichever road I choose, I'm actually anxious for an opportunity to self-improve in many ways. The only thing making me hesitate is I can't decide on which way to go and the biggest thing...approval from my parents. Although it's my life and my decision, I'm an only child and for alot of major decisions in my life I've wanted...not needed, my parent's approval. With a big decision like this I need all the support I can get. My parents are the type of parents that as soon as you mention military, the first thing that comes to mind is guns, blood, and war! They refuse to really hear it out and apply the logic to the situation. I've already taken the practice ASFAB and scored a 44 (which I was disappointed by but the recruiter said that it was harder than the actual test will be). I want to score above a 60 in order to secure that I get in the field that I want...otherwise I would be disappointed and annoyed to have to do anything else especially if it had nothing to do with my degree or future field.

I would appreciate any input or opinions, good or bad!

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Old 04-08-2009, 06:22 PM
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Well.. First, the Marine Corp has a great JAG offices down in Cali. Grandfather was a JAG lawyer for the Marine Corp. Did him well, but it took him many years to get to that point. Personally I would go in as an Officer and take your legal classes while serving. I couldn't tell you anything about the army's law programs from personal experiance. Just evaluate where you want to be going in your life. See what moves fit you better. Good luck to you.
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Old 04-09-2009, 12:21 AM
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as far as marines v army goes they all serve a purpose and both are good at what they do. army and marines bicker at each other all the time its part of the fun. my friend is in the marines and is very good at his job (comms) he made cpl within a year and a half of joining. sure theres idiots in the marines but same in the army. in the end go for what you feel you would like to do more
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Old 04-09-2009, 09:43 AM
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The Army has more opportunities than the Marine Corps. It's much larger. Both are trying to increae their endstrength.

There's MOS 27D, Legal Specialist that you could go into if you decided to go the enlisted route. Having a Bachelor's Degree will allow you to enlist as a SPC E-4. You'd get $50,000 after you get out to put towards law school.

If you want to go the commissioned route you could go in as MOS 09S. That would give you BCT & OCS to get your commission. Your branch would be whatever the Army has a need for.

Usually the top percentile group in OCS has the privelege of choosing what they want to do. This is something you need to talk to a Recruiter about.

You need to study for the ASVAB. Practice test & study guides can be found online. Your score has to be much higher than 44. The higher your score the better selection of MOSs you'll have.

I don't know who told you the Marines have better tools, better living conditions & better uniforms. They really don't know what they're talking about. As far as uniforms you'll be in the Army Combat Uniform or Marine MARPAT, their version of the ACU 99% of the time anyhow.

At this time I don't believe the Corps has any better education & training than the Army. Possibly combat training is better in the USMC. I don't think their technical training is any better.

At this time the Army has better contracts available & more MOSs to chose from.

Talk to a Marine Recruiter. Do lots of research into both services. Bear in mind that all Recruiters are salesmen & they'll make their pitch as if they have the best deal going. Anything you want in the service has to be in writing in your contract. Like Pres. Reagan said "Trust but verify".
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Old 04-09-2009, 10:44 AM
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That post is incredibly long winded ... I think you should look into the Navy, they like to tell long winded sea stories.
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Old 04-09-2009, 11:21 AM
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that post is incredibly long winded ... I think you should look into the navy, they like to tell long winded sea stories.


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Old 04-09-2009, 11:47 AM
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When i was looking at the different services, i considered them all(thou navy didnt last too long) One of the first things i noticed, was as far as college repayment benefits, Army is second to none, none of the others even come close. Up to 65,000 of federally backed loans repayed, and a possible $20,000 bonus for a 4 year enlistment, that pays back a very nice chunk of loans. But my advice is this, go thru the srvices write down the benefits and pros and cons of each and see which one seems to be the best for you. Im not joining because of the loan repayments, but if i can get it all for doing, why not. and the army is the best bet for that.

Also If you go in as enlisted you'll start out as a E4 i beleive(atleast E3) Because of your college, which means better pay and higher rank, where the marines from what im told wont start you out higher than E2 no matter how many college credits you have.
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Old 04-09-2009, 01:08 PM
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That post is incredibly long winded ... I think you should look into the Navy, they like to tell long winded sea stories.
Tell 'er Tacky!

That reminds me when I was out at sea in a storm surrounded by sharks & the ship was taking on water..................
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Old 04-09-2009, 09:07 PM
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Also If you go in as enlisted you'll start out as a E4 i beleive(atleast E3) Because of your college, which means better pay and higher rank, where the marines from what im told wont start you out higher than E2 no matter how many college credits you have.
this is true^ talked to a marine recruiter about advanced enlistment rank

[url]http://usmilitary.about.com/od/armyjoin/a/advancedrank.htm[/url] = link for the armys criteria for advanced enlistment rank
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Old 04-10-2009, 07:50 PM
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That reminds me when I was out at sea in a storm surrounded by sharks & the ship was taking on water..................
Then what happened?...
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