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Old 01-02-2009, 03:28 PM
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Yea sounds like a good deal I'm heading back to class next week Got a crop of newbies and they all got put into my squad so I'm going to have me a good old time
Make them do pull-ups! All the Army ROTCers I've met can barely pull out two!
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Old 01-02-2009, 05:05 PM
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Make them do pull-ups! All the Army ROTCers I've met can barely pull out two!
hahaha well you must be meeting some pussies because almost everybody in my BN (real cadets not nursing cadets) can do at lest 5
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Old 01-02-2009, 06:06 PM
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if i would go to service (FDF reservist) i would choose RK. (sako/valmet)
if i would go to shooting range, i would choose Bushmaster.

we dont have access to the realdeal assault rifles of yours as you do not have direct access to ours.

right tools for certain job right?
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Old 01-02-2009, 07:46 PM
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if i would go to service (FDF reservist) i would choose RK. (sako/valmet)
if i would go to shooting range, i would choose Bushmaster.

we dont have access to the realdeal assault rifles of yours as you do not have direct access to ours.

right tools for certain job right?
The M4A1 is the military version of the AR-15 (civilian version) its noting more than a .223 rifle. In America you half to have a special type of license to carry a real deal assault rifle. I'm not a big fan of Bushmaster. I'm either a Armor lite or colt guy. I find their versions to be a bit more reliable
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Old 01-02-2009, 08:42 PM
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I find Stag and Noveske to be the best producers of the AR-15.

And half of the ARs are chambered in 5.56 or .223. You can put .223s through a 5.56 rifle, but not 5.56 through a .223 rifle. Bust most produced now are chambered for both.
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The M4A1 is the military version of the AR-15 (civilian version) its noting more than a .223 rifle. In America you half to have a special type of license to carry a real deal assault rifle. I'm not a big fan of Bushmaster. I'm either a Armor lite or colt guy. I find their versions to be a bit more reliable
as you might have somebody who re-creates our stuff.
Bushmaster is just one of the companies we know.
nothing more.

so its safe to assume that naither of us have the "prime" stuff.
(how ever we gave ours for evaluation.)

your style rifle is very accurate compared to the AK style rifle we have...
but do we need the accuracy above the durability?
especially in our surrounings?
no..
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as you might have somebody who re-creates our stuff.
Bushmaster is just one of the companies we know.
nothing more.

so its safe to assume that naither of us have the "prime" stuff.
(how ever we gave ours for evaluation.)

your style rifle is very accurate compared to the AK style rifle we have...
but do we need the accuracy above the durability?
especially in our surrounings?
no..
I've shot Ak's and was not too fond on how the sights lined up
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its one of those weapons that once you are properly shown how to use it will work fine
Ive used the M4 a few times and personally found no problems with it whatsoever..d .it sits very nicely in the hands(if you know what I mean) I found the accuracy very good and the position of the safety is located in a better place in my opinion when you compare it to the SA80

I think I foolishly believed some of the people that were knocking it....once I had had a little go I changed my opinion


The NATO tests were done as objectively as possible....they were tested on 4 aspects

Accuracy
reliability
use in urban surroundings
adaptability

It came third
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Ive used the M4 a few times and personally found no problems with it whatsoever..d .it sits very nicely in the hands(if you know what I mean) I found the accuracy very good and the position of the safety is located in a better place in my opinion when you compare it to the SA80

I think I foolishly believed some of the people that were knocking it....once I had had a little go I changed my opinion


The NATO tests were done as objectively as possible....they were tested on 4 aspects

Accuracy
reliability
use in urban surroundings
adaptability

It came third
its a great weapon it just takes regular upkeep, and jams can always be fixed by hitting it really hard
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Old 01-03-2009, 08:23 AM
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I've shot Ak's and was not too fond on how the sights lined up

Awful weapons....you cant break them....thats its only saving grace...sand/dirt/cow ****e....they work no matter....how well they work is another matter
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