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Old 12-12-2005, 04:58 PM
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Default 24 years to execute a convicted killer is a joke!

US ex-gang boss denied clemency

The case has generated widespread debate in the US
The governor of California, Arnold Schwarzenegger, has denied clemency to former Crips gang leader Stanley "Tookie" Williams.
Barring a last-minute intervention by federal courts, Williams, 51, will be executed on Tuesday.
Earlier on Monday, California's Supreme Court and a federal appeals court both refused a stay of execution.
A high-profile campaign with celebrity backing has fought to save Williams, who denies four murders in 1979.
"After studying the evidence, searching the history, listening to the arguments and wrestling with the profound consequences, I could find no justification for granting clemency," Mr Schwarzenegger said.

The facts do not justify overturning the jury's verdict or the decisions of the courts in this case
"Stanley Williams insists he is innocent, and that he will not and should not apologise or otherwise atone for the murders of the four victims in this case. Without apology and atonement for these senseless and brutal killings, there can be no redemption," he said.
"Based on the cumulative weight of the evidence, there is no reason to second-guess the jury's decision of guilt or raise significant doubts or serious reservations about Williams' conviction and death sentence," the governor added.
Mr Schwarzenegger could have commuted the death sentence to life in prison without parole.
The California National Association for the Advancement of Colored People said it was saddened by the governor's decision.
"We believe this is a serious blow to our effort to fight gangs," its president, Alice Huffman, said.
Correspondents say a reprieve from the federal courts is considered unlikely.
Williams, co-founder of the notorious gang, is scheduled to be executed by lethal injection at 0001 (0801 GMT) at San Quentin prison, north of San Francisco.
Local authorities are planning to tighten security outside the prison, where hundreds of protesters are expected.
During his 24 years in jail, Williams has won praise for his anti-gang books, earning Nobel Peace Prize nominations for his teachings.
His high-profile supporters have included Oscar-winning actor Jamie Foxx, rap star Snoop Dogg - himself a former Crips member- Bishop Desmond Tutu and the Reverend Jesse Jackson.
However, the relatives of some of his victims have insisted he does not deserve clemency because he has not owned up to his crimes and refused to inform on fellow gang members.


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Old 12-12-2005, 05:24 PM
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It is a joke,why keep someone sentenced to death locked up for 24 years it makes no sense.The sentence should be carried out imediately,how many dollars has it cost the taxpayer to keep a dead man alive for 24 years.
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Old 12-12-2005, 05:30 PM
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It is a joke,why keep someone sentenced to death locked up for 24 years it makes no sense.The sentence should be carried out imediately,how many dollars has it cost the taxpayer to keep a dead man alive for 24 years.
Exactly . If they execute him . They are dumb dumb very dumb .
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Old 12-12-2005, 05:52 PM
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Exactly . If they execute him . They are dumb dumb very dumb .

Yer right,24 years is enough time for someone to rehabilitate themselves,hes turned his life around so its gonna look real bad.
Thats why we should do it strait away.
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Old 12-12-2005, 05:56 PM
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Yer right,24 years is enough time for someone to rehabilitate themselves,hes turned his life around so its gonna look real bad.
Thats why we should do it strait away.
we're talkin the same language on this one ,Crazy world !
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Old 12-12-2005, 06:12 PM
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we're talkin the same language on this one ,Crazy world !
lol yeh,anyone with half an atom can see how confusingly srewed up it is.
And i kinda believed to myself that Arnie might let him go,or at least make him spend the rest of his life in jail,but executing a reformed man makes the judicial system look like a Astronomy convention for the blind.
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Old 12-12-2005, 08:01 PM
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24 years damn long time man too damn long i would want it done and over with
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Old 12-12-2005, 11:14 PM
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yer not the the only one
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Old 12-13-2005, 06:01 AM
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It is a joke,why keep someone sentenced to death locked up for 24 years it makes no sense.The sentence should be carried out imediately,how many dollars has it cost the taxpayer to keep a dead man alive for 24 years.
24 years is too long. However, read the US constitution.. everyone is guaranteed the right of an appeal. Immediate execution would be unconstitutional.

CA is a very liberal state, the fact that he was executed at all is a surprise.

Society is a better place without this man around.
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Old 12-13-2005, 06:48 AM
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Yer right,24 years is enough time for someone to rehabilitate themselves,hes turned his life around so its gonna look real bad.
Thats why we should do it strait away.
however it doesn't justify hes actions...
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