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Old 06-15-2008, 12:38 PM
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Al-Sadr: New force to fight U.S. in IraqStory Highlights
Sources: Muqtada Al-Sadr apparently embracing what U.S. calls rogue militants

Shiite cleric's Mehdi Army has operated under cease-fire since last summer

Al-Sadr says there'll be no stop to resistance in Iraq "until liberation or martyrdom"



Muqtada al-Sadr says his new group will focus exclusively on battling U.S.-led forces in Iraq.

Al-Sadr's letter said that "the resistance will be exclusively conducted by only one group. This new group will be defined soon by me."

Al-Sadr's militia, the Mehdi Army, has a strong and ubiquitous presence in Shiite cities, towns and neighborhoods.

Sources familiar with al-Sadr said they believe he's trying to embrace what the U.S. calls "Special Groups" -- Iran-backed Shiite militants, including rogue Mehdi Army members, who have been fighting U.S.-led troops despite a cease-fire that the cleric declared in August.

The mainstream Mehdi Army has operated under the cease-fire, which dramatically reduced violence in Iraq. During that time, however, there has been fighting between U.S. and Iraqi troops and members of the Mehdi Army, with many of the battles this spring in the southern city of Basra and Baghdad's Sadr City neighborhood.

In the latest fighting overnight, American-led coalition forces killed five and arrested two Special Groups members near Hilla, south of Baghdad, the U.S. military said.

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In the letter, al-Sadr said, "The weapons will be held exclusively by this new group, and they should be pointed exclusively at the occupier," adding that he will forbid the group "to target anyone else."

The letter added, "We will not stop resisting the occupation until liberation or martyrdom."

Al-Sadr is transitioning much of the rest of the Mehdi Army into a civilian movement dealing with "religious, social and cultural affairs," according to the letter.

That part of the Mehdi Army will not be involved in militancy but will "fight the Western ideology and liberate the minds from domination and globalization."

The letter said al-Sadr would disown anyone in the Mehdi Army who disobeys his new command. It was read at mosques affiliated with the cleric's movement.

Iraqi and Western intelligence sources have said that Iran, over the last few months, has pressured al-Sadr to promote its interests, which include getting the United States out of Iraq.

Al-Sadr's letter didn't explain why he decided to issue his command.

Meanwhile, Iraqi officials, frustrated by the lack of success in negotiations with the United States over a long-term security agreement, are contemplating a new tack -- pulling out of security talks and developing their own legislation that would dictate the shape of the American military presence in Iraq.

Haidar Abadi, an aide to Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, announced the move in remarks Thursday.

The talks have sparked concern among Iraqis that a bilateral security pact will compromise their country's sovereignty.

The United States has said it hopes to secure a status of forces agreement by the end of July. At present, a U.N. mandate governs the American military presence through the end of the year.
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Old 06-17-2008, 08:02 AM
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The only thing that will change is the level of attacks on allied forces...the Madhi armys cease-fire was never going to last.....and the Irainian led groups will always be funded well enough to launch attacks on coalition troops...if the madhi army does resume attacks...a coaltion offensive is the only way to counter them.....fire with fire....Iraqs a conundrem....its hard to find a balance between offensive operations and hearts and minds....one sometimes corupts the other
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The only thing that will change is the level of attacks on allied forces...the Madhi armys cease-fire was never going to last.....and the Irainian led groups will always be funded well enough to launch attacks on coalition troops...if the madhi army does resume attacks...a coaltion offensive is the only way to counter them.....fire with fire....Iraqs a conundrem....its hard to find a balance between offensive operations and hearts and minds....one sometimes corupts the other
True, but whilst offensives will be neccessary, Intel will have to work overtime.. its a messy business but counter insurgent operations has to have a strong Intel arm to be effective, and this will be neccessary to hit the right spots in offensives and take the kingpins of the street, the rest of the skittles will disperse when that happens... until Tehran sends in operators to reorganise them...
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True, but whilst offensives will be neccessary, Intel will have to work overtime.. its a messy business but counter insurgent operations has to have a strong Intel arm to be effective, and this will be neccessary to hit the right spots in offensives and take the kingpins of the street, the rest of the skittles will disperse when that happens... until Tehran sends in operators to reorganise them...
True intell is key in most things....but even more so when its a counter insurgency war...decapatate these groups...as you say take out the kingpins...and iran involement will countine....i think they enjoy their little proxy war....but if the keep lining them up...well just have to keep knocking them down

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True intell is key in most things....but even more so when its a counter insurgency war...decapatate these groups...as you say take out the kingpins...and iran involement will countine....i think they enjoy their little proxy war....but if the keep lining them up...well just have to keep knocking them down

With the fear of spike jumping all over it............Doolittle had it right...

"Victory belongs to those who believe in it the most and believe in it the longest"
Wont aruge with anything you said there, but may I present another phrase dear to my heart on the subject!!...

"Victory belongs to the bravest, survival belongs to the quickest, and success belongs to the slickest!".. meaning those with the most awareness of whats going on will beat the die hards every time!!..
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Wont aruge with anything you said there, but may I present another phrase dear to my heart on the subject!!...

"Victory belongs to the bravest, survival belongs to the quickest, and success belongs to the slickest!".. meaning those with the most awareness of whats going on will beat the die hards every time!!..
Very true....and may the bravest quickest and slickest be us......

have you got a book of speeches in your lap all the time Exo.......its great stuff
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Very true....and may the bravest quickest and slickest be us......

have you got a book of speeches in your lap all the time Exo.......its great stuff
Indeed!!....
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