Do you collect or are you interested in old army equipment?
This would be the thread for discussing thease weapons and pieces of equipment from the
history.

If you have any relics feel free to post pictures and some information of the piece.

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Pistola Automatica Calibre 7.62mm Garate Anitua & Cia- Eibar (Spain)
(Finnish M/19)



My grampa got this piece when they phased out some time in the 60-70's

so called "Ruby" pistol. possible ww1 relic. Finland bought about 10.000 of thease from France
in 1919. it was bought in numbers during the same deal when we bought some Renault tanks and other equipment for the new armed forces of Finland. the pistol it self is quite
horrible because "Rubys" were manufactured by some 30 different companys in Spain.
the parts were not interchangeable between the different manufacturer models
and the efficiency of the pistol was dubious at best. 7.62x17mm (.32 ACP)
was very poor man stopper, and the gun it self was usually fairly inaccurate
and heavy for it's caliber.

Still, it was the first official pistol of the Finnish Defence Forces.

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Since the Irish Army in my time have ancient equipment, I thought Id post some action of it...

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFJpys6CY1Y[/url]

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thats not exactly what i had in mind Exo... I know that you have like propeller stuff
but you can still mount proper modern equipment in those... so... lets keep
the thread in the subject shall we?

besides i bet you don't actually own one of those?

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lol... roger that!!.. Gun control here makes legally owning a firearm virtually impossible... but I do have a powder loader from a 17th century musket...

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The Sten gun was a family of British 9 mm submachine guns used extensively by British and Commonwealth forces throughout World War II. They were notable for having a simple design and very low production cost.

The Sten emerged while Britain was engaged in the Battle of Britain, facing invasion by Germany. The army was forced to replace weapons lost during the evacuation from Dunkirk while expanding at the same time. Prior to 1941 (and even later) the British were purchasing all the Thompson submachine guns they could from the United States, but this did not begin to meet demand. The American entry into the war at the end of 1941 placed an even bigger demand on the facilities making Thompsons. In order to rapidly equip a sufficient fighting force to counter the Axis threat, the Royal Small Arms Factory, Enfield, was commissioned to produce a significantly cheaper alternative.

Funny poem I found on the Sten site about the gun

You wicked piece of vicious tin!
Call you a gun? Don't make me grin.
You're just a bloated piece of pipe.
You couldn't hit a hunk of tripe.
But when you're with me in the night,
I'll tell you pal, you're just alright!

Each day I wipe you free of dirt.
Your dratted corners tear my shirt.
I cuss at you and call you names,
You're much more trouble than my dames.
But boy, do I love to hear you yammer
When you 're spitting lead in a business manner.

You conceited pile of salvage junk.
I think this prowess talk is bunk.
Yet if I want a wall of lead
Thrown at some Jerry's head
It is to you I raise my hat;
You're a damn good pal... You silly gat!

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show me a fighter who's nothing but heart,
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as the need to have one man carried full automatic weaponry, Aimo Johannes Lahti,
the Finnish master armorer and Lieutenant Koskinen managed to create
one of the finest sub-machine guns ever built to that date.
Suomi KP (Finland SMG m/31) was produced from 1931 to 1944.
it was not particularly cheap piece of equipment but it certainly
was effective.


[URL="http://olegvolk.net/gallery/d/24210-3/K32suomi7418.jpg"]linked pic1[/URL]
[URL="http://guns.connect.fi/gow/scannon.jpg"]linked pic2[/URL]

[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suomi_M/31"]Wiki[/URL]


[URL="http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/data/536/Flamethrower_1.JPG"]brutal contraption[/URL]
(underslung flamethrower)
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDOXnTvVwj8"]some video from the youtube[/URL]

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Ladz, ye bring up some fine SMG weapons for WW2, the Sten being a favourite of parachute regiments of the British and Commonwealth Forces..... but the topic is not complete about the M1 Carbine. It was a light versatile weapon that had 15 round magazine and fired flathead rounds just like pistols... proved to be extremely effective to 100m max as whist the muzzle velocity was low the grain and design of the round had kinetic displacement upon impact... in essence, the round would blow up when hitting a target.....causing real damage to the target once it was below 50m especially... but did the deal to 75/100m too. This ballastic benefit was used by the French Foreign Legion in Vietnam in the 50s and in that conflict the M1 won its place in Foreign Legion history and focloir..


Check it out.....

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"Barrel High, Powder Dry!"

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what comes to the cheaper alternative.. Tikkakoski armory did a cheapo copy of the
soviet PPS-43 chambered in 9,00 x 19 Para caliber. this however was made after the war so its
not that relevant to this thread other than it also used Suomi Drum clips.

[URL="http://www.nic.fi/~oulsb/kuvat/unef1/Peltiheikki.jpg"]Finnish UN soldier
with "Peltiheikki" m/44 during the Suez chrisis[/URL]

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wow.. thats cool. do you have any accessories for it? like the powder puoch etc?

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