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Old 01-14-2008, 05:40 PM
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Default Just a few questions regarding US Army SF . . .

I was browsing through the forums trying to find some useful information regarding Army SF and it seems like there is some good information floating around . . . however I could not find answers to some of the questions I have. Before I ask any questions\ask for advice Iíll tell you a little bit about myself.

I have always had a passion for the armed forces and a desire to serve in the United States military. After finishing high school I found myself with a difficult decision to make: to join the U.S. army at 17 years old and get my *** kicked (now looking back) or go to college. In short, I did neither, and went to Austria then Canada to train as a mountain guide for a year and a half then transferred to a college back in the states. I now have 3 solid semesters under my belt and im expected to get my A.A. degree in the fall of 08'. Now Im 20 years old.

First off, letís say I decide to finish up college and get my B.A. What are the steps to becoming part of the SF community as an officer? My recruiter has been extremely vague in answering this question; in fact he has warned me that if I am serious about SF that I should not go in as an officer. (He also tells me that SF officers only get 16-24 months of team time - is this true!?)

Secondly, lets say I decide to finish up with an A.A. then attempt to become part of the Army SF community through the 18x enlistment option:

1. Do SF soldiers have any choice\influence on which SF specialty they become - weapons, comm, medic, engineer . . . (medic would be my first choice)

2. Through research and my recruiter I have learned there are multiple teams stationed throughout the world. I know itís about "the needs of the army," but do SF soldiers have any choice\influence on where they are stationed?

3. I like to consider myself as physically able to compete with anyone. I currently run close to a 10 minute two mile and can do countless pushups, sit-ups, pull ups etc . . . However swimming is my "kryptonite." Currently I am a very weak swimmer. Is swimming a requirement for Army SF selection and training?

4. While training as a mountain guide we typically used the UTM navigation system. Supposedly land navigation is one of the most difficult parts of SF training. What land navigation system does the SF use and what situations should I prepare myself for beforehand?

Though I greatly desire to become an SF soldier my first prerogative is to serve. I realize the chances of me making SF are slim I will push myself and do my best. I am trying to make a somewhat educated decision and figure I might as well ask these questions to people familiar with the SF community (ideally someone with first hand experience). Any advice on preparing ahead of time will be greatly appreciated (I am at least 9 months from active duty). I thank all you who have served for your service and dedication to our country! I look forward to reading your replies.

- JAC
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Old 01-14-2008, 06:24 PM
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I was browsing through the forums trying to find some useful information regarding Army SF and it seems like there is some good information floating around . . . however I could not find answers to some of the questions I have. Before I ask any questions\ask for advice Iíll tell you a little bit about myself.

I have always had a passion for the armed forces and a desire to serve in the United States military. After finishing high school I found myself with a difficult decision to make: to join the U.S. army at 17 years old and get my *** kicked (now looking back) or go to college. In short, I did neither, and went to Austria then Canada to train as a mountain guide for a year and a half then transferred to a college back in the states. I now have 3 solid semesters under my belt and im expected to get my A.A. degree in the fall of 08'. Now Im 20 years old.

First off, letís say I decide to finish up college and get my B.A. What are the steps to becoming part of the SF community as an officer? My recruiter has been extremely vague in answering this question; in fact he has warned me that if I am serious about SF that I should not go in as an officer. (He also tells me that SF officers only get 16-24 months of team time - is this true!?)

Secondly, lets say I decide to finish up with an A.A. then attempt to become part of the Army SF community through the 18x enlistment option:

1. Do SF soldiers have any choice\influence on which SF specialty they become - weapons, comm, medic, engineer . . . (medic would be my first choice)

2. Through research and my recruiter I have learned there are multiple teams stationed throughout the world. I know itís about "the needs of the army," but do SF soldiers have any choice\influence on where they are stationed?

3. I like to consider myself as physically able to compete with anyone. I currently run close to a 10 minute two mile and can do countless pushups, sit-ups, pull ups etc . . . However swimming is my "kryptonite." Currently I am a very weak swimmer. Is swimming a requirement for Army SF selection and training?

4. While training as a mountain guide we typically used the UTM navigation system. Supposedly land navigation is one of the most difficult parts of SF training. What land navigation system does the SF use and what situations should I prepare myself for beforehand?

Though I greatly desire to become an SF soldier my first prerogative is to serve. I realize the chances of me making SF are slim I will push myself and do my best. I am trying to make a somewhat educated decision and figure I might as well ask these questions to people familiar with the SF community (ideally someone with first hand experience). Any advice on preparing ahead of time will be greatly appreciated (I am at least 9 months from active duty). I thank all you who have served for your service and dedication to our country! I look forward to reading your replies.

- JAC
Hiya, as Nightflyer says, Tacky is an US Army SF, and a fountain of knowledge on all US Army matters, Special Forces being his top area... that said, There are some common traits Tacky will tell you about that most SF units have around the world....

1. When in selection, theres no difference to Officers and Men,. everybody gets the same treatement... If I understand it correctly, when you pass selection, only then does rank get recognised and you work through the SF training schedules.... etc....

2. Do dont get to pick Special Forces, you do the course, pass it and they may pick up... its all upto what and how you do in your selection course, your background and what attributes they see in you that would make you suitable for an SF unit..

Since I was not an SF whilst in the Irish Army, this is as far as my knowledge stretches, so Tacky can take it from there.. However, you will find Tacky has posted LOADS of stuff on US Special Forces namely US Army Rangers, so look up some of his posts, and you might find answers you seek there...
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Old 01-15-2008, 01:28 PM
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Thanks night and exo for pointing me in the right direction, I'll try to get in contact with Tacky as soon as his PM box isnt full . Looks like he's in high demand!
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As far as I know you woudn't be able to go SF as an officer right away. You'd be placed in a unit as a platoon leader. After getting seasoning as an officer you can apply. the same goes for entry in the 75th Ranger Regt. there are no 2LTs. You have to serve your time in a grunt unit as a PL.

As far as going in as a medic then you'll have to go in as enlisted. There are no commissioned medics other than doctors.

MSG Tacky will probably set me straight on this but from what I've learned it's best to volunteer for SF sometime toward the end of your 1st enlistment or into your 2nd enlistment. The Army does have a program occassionaly that allows a newly enlisted soldier to go SF after Infantry & Airborne Schools. They'll send you to 18X training & language school after that. I'm not sure whether you'd have a choice in MOSs in the 18 series.

Several soldiers I know went SF after being in the Ranger Regt. for a year or so, enough time to get a little rank & experience in the Army.

You have more choices in choosing your path as an enlisted man. You'll have a chance to get a contract tailored to what you desire. If you enlist with a college degree you'll be entering the Army as a Specialist, E4. You can apply for OCS sometime later in your enlistment. My son had a platoon leader, 1LT, who started off as an enlisted Ranger, went to Infantry School, Airborne School, RIP, & Ranger School & then applied for OCS. He ultimately applied for SF.
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Old 01-17-2008, 05:14 PM
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Thanks for the info on applying for SF\Rangers as an officer MSG Glenn. I wouldn't think they would let any green officers into the SF\Rangers. Now I have to decide in the next few months if I want to enlist after getting my A.A. or go in as an officer. Though going in as enlisted sounds pretty attractive as I get to choose my MOS, etc . . . for the most part!
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Old 01-17-2008, 05:44 PM
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hey ive got a problem i got through most of my stuff to enlist but after my ASVAB(which i scored an 89 on) i was told i was disqualified for my criminal record. i was wondering if there was anything i could do to get my waiver pushed through. i am really looking foward to serving my country and puting my past mistakes behind me. all advice would be appreciated
Here's a site you can check for Criminal disqualifiers That may apply to you.

[url]http://usmilitary.about.com/od/armyjoin/a/criminal.htm[/url]

Hope this helps.

You'll have to ask your recruiter how to go about the waiver process. Some things cannot be waivered. In the Army there are no such things as expunged criminal records. They all show up, even juvenile offences.
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hey ive got a problem i got through most of my stuff to enlist but after my ASVAB(which i scored an 89 on) i was told i was disqualified for my criminal record. i was wondering if there was anything i could do to get my waiver pushed through. i am really looking foward to serving my country and puting my past mistakes behind me. all advice would be appreciated
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