
10-09-2005, 04:05 PM
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whats the increment?
the media rumour mill is churning out some gaff about a top secret counter insergency unit operating in iraq made up of the best from delta sas seals sbs called the increment
ne1 got any semi hard facts on this or is it just fubar
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10-09-2005, 05:12 PM
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The media calls Air Force Security Forces "Special Forces" on occasion .. you decide if they're reliable on military units, matters, and operations.
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10-09-2005, 06:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bones
the media rumour mill is churning out some gaff about a top secret counter insergency unit operating in iraq made up of the best from delta sas seals sbs called the increment
ne1 got any semi hard facts on this or is it just fubar
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There is Hollywood and there is reality! I would imagine they are all operating in Iraq within their own specified remit.
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10-09-2005, 06:44 PM
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dont go for media bull****
but if its a correct report what could they be doin out there
if it is a bunch a horse dung then it isnt the slightest bit funny
in each case its just compromised the mission
dumbasses
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10-10-2005, 05:42 PM
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Its a bit worrying that you know that name because you should'nt, especialy in the states.
I'll go as far as to say that 'The Increment' is British forces only and 'The Best' are correct but thats where the butt stops!!!
Any more 'Top Secret' Information you come across bones,please,keep it to yourself mate.
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10-10-2005, 06:30 PM
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Isnt calling yourself SAS warrior just as dangerous.
I hope for your sake its just a name and not a fact cause i think the boys at *****command
would like a quiet word with you.
No offence mate.
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10-11-2005, 08:19 AM
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Alleged...
Bones, FYI.
"The Increment"
The Secret Intelligence Service (SIS), better known as MI6) he apparently mentioned a cell comprised of operators from within 22 SAS and the Special Boat Squadron that was known as "The Increment"; they are/were the cream of the crop of SAS/SBS soldiers that are selected and sent specifically on SIS-supervised missions such as would have been the case in Tomlinson's accusation that SIS had devised possible assassination scenarios for Serbia's Slobodan Milosevic. It is not known if they are a permanent unit or whether they are only activated for specialist operations.
According to a 1998 letter drafted by former SIS agent Richard Tomlinson, Tomlinson claimed the existence of the unit oand of a written plan to use The Increment to assassinate Milosevic.:
"The remainder of the document proposed three methods to assassinate Milosevic. The first method was to train and equip a Serbian paramilitary opposition group to assassinate Milosevic in Serbia. Fishwick argued that this method would have the advantage of deniability, but the disadvantage that control of the operation would be low and the chances of success unpredictable. The second method was to use the Increment (a small cell of the SAS and SBS which is especially selected and trained to carry out operations exclusively for MI5/MI6) to infiltrate Serbia and attack Milosevic either with a bomb or sniper ambush. Fishwick argued that this would plan would be the most reliable, but would be undeniable if it went wrong. Fishwick’s third proposal was to kill Milosevic in a staged car crash, possibly during one of his visits to the ICFY (International Conference on the Former Yugoslavia) in Geneva, Switzerland. Fishwick even provided a suggestion about how this could be done, such as by disorientating Milosevic’s chauffeur using a blinding strobe light as the cavalcade passed through one of Geneva’s motorway tunnels."
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10-11-2005, 08:31 AM
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right so they do exist its not media fubar
what of this report then that there operating in iraq
if there asassins who are they after then
cool info by the way dude
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10-11-2005, 10:22 AM
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[url]http://www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion%20editorials/2003%20Opinion%20Editorials/June%202003%20Opinion/13o/Assassination%20and%20the%20license%20to%20kill,%2 0By%20Richard%20M%20Bennett.htm[/url]
I've Just been checking who Richard M Bennet is .Turns out to be an American from Ohio .
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10-12-2005, 06:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by S.A.S.Warrior
Its a bit worrying that you know that name because you should'nt, especialy in the states.
I'll go as far as to say that 'The Increment' is British forces only and 'The Best' are correct but thats where the butt stops!!!
Any more 'Top Secret' Information you come across bones,please,keep it to yourself mate.
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Shut up Walt! You have no idea. Stop pretending you are even in the forces. Your not. We exposed your other posts.
Increment noun (100%)
increase , addition , supplement , gain , augmentation , boost ; informal hike .
(From The Oxford Paperback Thesaurus in English Dictionaries & Thesauruses)
The Increment is a kind of myth really. Its a nice idea for journalists, because it gives them a story. Think about it this way, if you had a risky or important task to complete then its only sensible that you would use the best guys you have to achieve the result? Its common knowledge that SF groupings work with many different, covert and secretive agencies.
Armies will always have a covert force operating. Its just you don't get to see them like you do the overt forces (or green army), as they are generally known.
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