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Old 01-21-2008, 01:20 PM
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Default Has Cruise lost the plot?

Tom Cruise makes speech and sounds remakably like Joseph Goebbels

[URL="http://defamer.com/344987/the-tom-cruise-indoctrination-video-scientologists-dont-want-you-to-see"]Scientology vid [/URL]

Is he a realist or has he lost the plot?
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Old 01-21-2008, 01:31 PM
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Tom Cruise makes speech and sounds remakably like Joseph Goebbels

[URL="http://defamer.com/344987/the-tom-cruise-indoctrination-video-scientologists-dont-want-you-to-see"]Scientology vid [/URL]

Is he a realist or has he lost the plot?
Hehehe... I couldn't even watch it it was so jumbled and his thoughts weren't even complete. I think I made it past the first 5 minutes. From what I heard, it sounded like he liked it - because it built his ego??? I don't know... whatever, everyone has the right to their own and if it brings him happiness and jjoy - then so be it...
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Old 01-21-2008, 01:33 PM
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Default Tom Cruise compared to Joseph Goebbels

A respected German historian has compared a speech by actor Tom Cruise to the Church of Scientology with a call to war by Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels.

Guido Knopp, an expert on Second World War history, told a German newspaper: "Tom Cruise's manner calls to mind Goebbels."

Tom Cruise's rousing speech to fellow Scientology members 'calls to mind Goebbels' says Mr Knopp

The historian was commenting on a video recording of a rousing sermon Cruise, 45, delivered to fellow Scientology members four years ago that was leaked on the internet last week.

The star is seen asking fellow members of the church: "Should we clean this place up?" The crowd responds with rapturous cheers.

Mr Knopp said it was bound to remind Germans of Goebbels' notorious call for "total war" issued in Berlin on February 18, 1943.

"It is possible that the way in which Cruise speaks is common in many empowerment circles in the United States," he said.

"But the scene in which Cruise asks if the Scientologists should clean up the world and they all respond 'yes' will remind any German with an interest in history of Goebbels' infamous Sports Palace speech."

In another clip released on the Internet last week, Cruise is shown boasting about Scientology's power to transform lives.

"We're the authorities on getting people off drugs. We're the authorities on the mind. We're the authorities on improving conditions ... We can rehabilitate criminals. Way to happiness. We can bring peace and unite cultures," Cruise says.

In a statement, the Church of Scientology accused Bild am Sonntag, the newspaper in which Mr Knopp's remarks were published, of "disgracefully misinterpreting" Cruise's speech.

"He was giving an acceptance speech for a humanitarian award bestowed in honor of his efforts for global literacy. In doing so, he was urging other people to become involved in similar humanitarian activities to the betterment of all.

"Anyone who knows Mr Cruise knows that he does not have a prejudicial bone in his body and that, unlike Bild am Sonntag and other German anti-religionists, he does not discriminate against any other religion, race or color."

Cruise's portrayal of Claus Schenk von Stauffenberg, a Nazi resistence hero, in the film Valkyrie, which is due for release later this year, has caused controversy in Germany because of the actor's links to Scientology.

An unauthorised biography of Cruise published in the US earlier this month claimed the actor was now the organisation's second-in-command.

He is consulted on every aspect of the group's planning and policy, according to the book by the royal biographer Andrew Morton. The church claims Morton's work is poorly researched and inaccurate.

Cruise was only 24 when he became a major Hollywood star with the pilot action film Top Gun. According to the book, Cruise first got involved in Scientology in 1986 when he was recruited by his first wife, the actress Mimi Rogers.

Scientology has been ridiculed over such beliefs as the doctrine that alien lifeforms called Thetans inhabit human bodies.

It has also been attacked over its practice of "disconnect" , in which members are encouraged to mix only with other Scientologists.
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Old 01-21-2008, 01:39 PM
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I couldn't even watch it it was so jumbled and his thoughts weren't even complete.
Exactly what I thought....

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I think I made it past the first 5 minutes.
He started repeating himself after 2 mins, so you did well..

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From what I heard, it sounded like he liked it - because it built his ego???
Well he's an actor ........

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I don't know... whatever, everyone has the right to their own and if it brings him happiness and jjoy - then so be it
Does that include militaristic Germans?
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What the hell was that???... Like I have heard some major league bull****ters in my time, but you take the buscuit. How on earth do you not choke on your own BS??.. Well ya little midget!!... Heres the deal, why dont YOU get out of the Arena, you arrogant pomus self obsessing piece of hollywood trash, before Uncle Ex comes and kicks your *** out of the stadium with his Ammo Boots!!!!.....


Your are a pot sized representation of all those witless tools who make loads of money doing feck all in Holywood get so tired of the good life that they look to express their Bull**** lives in another way!!!... fine, but be a good little twit, and KEEP it to yourself.

The fact that you could not hang on to Ms. Penelope Cruise should be a point of self reflection, since thats about all you seem to do, and in an honest light, you might understand how much bull**** you come out with. You've being compared to Gobbels by my esteemed colleague, Mr Spike, which is not a bad comparision by the amount of ****etalk you do, which seems to be an overcompensation for your small sature.

In summary, I would be much appreciated if you could wrap a .38mm around your own lips and pull the trigger, which would save the world community from your incessant bull**** and of course, another ****e movie. However, as a comprimise, are are willing to accept that you shut the **** up and keep your **** for brains "world view" to your self.

Your loving Fan!!...

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Old 01-21-2008, 01:53 PM
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Hehehe... I couldn't even watch it it was so jumbled and his thoughts weren't even complete. I think I made it past the first 5 minutes. From what I heard, it sounded like he liked it - because it built his ego??? I don't know... whatever, everyone has the right to their own and if it brings him happiness and jjoy - then so be it...
I think he should shut his face, and not aggrivating Uncle Exo... I have written him a small fax to outline my response to his "world view"....

Please see above...
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What the hell was that???... Like I have heard some major league bull****ters in my time, but you take the buscuit. How on earth do you not choke on your own BS??.. Well ya little midget!!... Heres the deal, why dont YOU get out of the Arena, you arrogant pomus self obsessing piece of hollywood trash, before Uncle Ex comes and kicks your *** out of the stadium with his Ammo Boots!!!!.....


Your are a pot sized representation of all those witless tools who make loads of money doing feck all in Holywood get so tired of the good life that they look to express their Bull**** lives in another way!!!... fine, but be a good little twit, and KEEP it to yourself.

The fact that you could not hang on to Ms. Penelope Cruise should be a point of self reflection, since thats about all you seem to do, and in an honest light, you might understand how much bull**** you come out with. You've being compared to Gobbels by my esteemed colleague, Mr Spike, which is not a bad comparision by the amount of ****etalk you do, which seems to be an overcompensation for your small sature.

In summary, I would be much appreciated if you could wrap a .38mm around your own lips and pull the trigger, which would save the world community from your incessant bull**** and of course, another ****e movie. However, as a comprimise, are are willing to accept that you shut the **** up and keep your **** for brains "world view" to your self.

Your loving Fan!!...

Uncle Exo..
Bravo......LOL
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Exactly what I thought....

He started repeating himself after 2 mins, so you did well..

Well he's an actor ........

Does that include militaristic Germans?
Yes, it was very repetitive. Let me rephrase... I do not agree with any religion/belief etc... that wants to annihilate those who do not believe or fit a certain criteria of their belief. haha I didn't get this impression though... I took it to be he thought his was the one that could resolve all world problems, and they were taking credit for less crimes, etc ... most churches have programs that help communities/criminals/poverty stricken people... I don't know much about this belief/way of life. SO I don't want to comment too much on it. The only thing I heard is that it is a religion where you pay to become a higher "rank" if you will. I didn't pay much attention to it after I heard that. I do not believe that money buys you more knowledge. I also believe you don't have to be an educated man to know God better than someone else. I believe everyone has that inalienable right - to KNOW God. This religion focuses on science though... so that doesn't pertain.
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Dear Tom,

What the hell was that???... Like I have heard some major league bull****ters in my time, but you take the buscuit. How on earth do you not choke on your own BS??.. Well ya little midget!!... Heres the deal, why dont YOU get out of the Arena, you arrogant pomus self obsessing piece of hollywood trash, before Uncle Ex comes and kicks your *** out of the stadium with his Ammo Boots!!!!.....


Your are a pot sized representation of all those witless tools who make loads of money doing feck all in Holywood get so tired of the good life that they look to express their Bull**** lives in another way!!!... fine, but be a good little twit, and KEEP it to yourself.

The fact that you could not hang on to Ms. Penelope Cruise should be a point of self reflection, since thats about all you seem to do, and in an honest light, you might understand how much bull**** you come out with. You've being compared to Gobbels by my esteemed colleague, Mr Spike, which is not a bad comparision by the amount of ****etalk you do, which seems to be an overcompensation for your small sature.

In summary, I would be much appreciated if you could wrap a .38mm around your own lips and pull the trigger, which would save the world community from your incessant bull**** and of course, another ****e movie. However, as a comprimise, are are willing to accept that you shut the **** up and keep your **** for brains "world view" to your self.

Your loving Fan!!...

Uncle Exo..
Ouch... um... such hate shouldn't be tolerated "GRIMM!! GRIMM!!" hahahaha Seriously though, I think you are just jealous of his hot naughty body! ROFL
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