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Old 01-13-2006, 07:34 AM
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Old 01-13-2006, 12:03 PM
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that famous saying was made by one of the commanders of the british empire ABOUT the british empire
look it up for **** sake
Read any history book.
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Alright I have been away for a while so I didnt get to post these in time so bear with me.

Top Gun said something like 1/4 of the world in stead of 2/3. OK Because 2/3 of the world is water I was exagerating. The quote itself was something a friend of mine said in an intellectual conversation and for the most part it was pretty accurate.
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SNIPER1ALPHA said: i thought that only the 75th answered to USSOCOM. i thought all other outfits operated through Army Command? Just wondering i don't want to start an argument. as if we need another.

Your correct: 75th does answer to USSOCOM. But there are rangers out there who do go to school then go back to there previous commands; I.E. 82nd. Company CO's like to send thier guys to ranger school because it makes them look good. Or so I was told. If you want really accurate information look it up on the army website. Remember though, you have to take your info with a grain of salt. Things dont always go as smooth as they seem. There are always loop-holes and special conditions here and there. If you ever want to cross reference information you hear/read, about Rangers, SEALS, Green Berets. Let me know, Coranado is right across the bay from me and I have to start going there often anyway. Also my good friend is a former Green Beret. I will say this, and this do apply to me as well. Everybody opinion's, thoughts, and the like, are based on their experiences when they where there. You might/will hear different stories about things in general. Especially for SF people, they are trained to tell their stories a little bit different each time.

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Old 01-13-2006, 04:07 PM
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Who gives a **** about Vulgaria . You commie red Basterd . Nobody knows where Bulgaria is anyway . Terrible poco little village in Balkan ****hole area !
DIKED im sure we've done more for the world than ****TY argentina ever will, and im sure if we went in there we'll whoop ur arse.
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and im sure if we went in there we'll whoop ur arse.
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Are you serious ..........Vulgaria?? lol thanks, best laugh I've had in ages . More chance of the Martians invading Pluto
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Old 01-13-2006, 06:22 PM
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Can i ask a question? Who her really believes that 1. argentina gota got its asked kicked it the falklands?, 2. beleves the quote that (1 uk soilder cud kill 6 argentine soilders?) and 3. believes that the UK cud successfully invade switzerland?

just outta interest thanks!
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Old 01-13-2006, 09:21 PM
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Can i ask a question? Who her really believes that 1. argentina gota got its asked kicked it the falklands?, 2. beleves the quote that (1 uk soilder cud kill 6 argentine soilders?) and 3. believes that the UK cud successfully invade switzerland?

just outta interest thanks!


You're the kind of IRA scum that really pisses me off - the kind who tries to mask their terrorist scummy, cowardly-self by trying to act mature and sensible, as if it means people will take your hateful ****-spraying on this forum seriously. If you hate the UK so much, admit it you ****ing coward! The only reason that I can possibly see for you not admitting this is because you are scared... scared that one of the smarter-than-you brits on here will tear you apart; scared of the consequences of people finding out what you really are - a wannabe-IRA piece of ****. Also, if you hate us, **** off to the republic; northern ireland will always be part of the UK. The IRA LOST.
I believe the 1st point. It's ridiculous and stupid not to. We beat a great military power in three months, 8000 miles from home terrority. The argies were dug-in, fortified and had infinitely more men, yet, not only did we beat them; we lost much less men than them. In my eyes, that constitutes an ***-whooping. Saying 1 UK soldier could kill 6 argentines is ridiculous. 100 UK soldiers could beat 600 argies in a fair fight, however (in my opinion). I don't know if we could invade switzerland successfully.

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Old 01-14-2006, 04:09 AM
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what about the battle of goose green where 1000 argies were dug in on a hill defending it against a small (*dont know the correct number) force of british paras
we took many casualties on the first day and after that we had killed nearly 400 argies the surrendered and it was all over the newspapers of the world apparently (*does this give you any humiliation allargie?)

1 british soldier DID kill 6 argies at a time, i know 1 fact that that when the SAS went to take the airfields they got into serious bayonet fights and im talking 6 SAS against about 50 argies here
theres a good video of a british soldier just getting pissed off with the argentinians after a while he pulled his LAW out a blew an argie away whilst on ambush
i also think the brits were the first to take down an argie aircraft with the new stinger missile

i refer from talking to top gun from now on because i know hes wrong and he just about manages to spray any made up bullcrap on this forum
the BNP party in my words are the closest thing in britain to bringing back what it was like in the 50's and back
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Old 01-14-2006, 05:48 AM
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We don't need to turn this into personal attacks . Just quote facts .
Argentine aircraft loses:-

Saturday 3rd April
[a1] - Puma SA.330L of CAB 601 shot down at Grytviken, South Georgia by Royal Marine small arms fire.

Saturday 1st May

[a2, a3, a4] - One Pucara of FAA Grupo 3 destroyed and two more damaged and not repaired at Goose Green by CBU's dropped in attack by No.800 Sea Harriers flown by Lt Cmdr Frederiksen, Lt Hale and Lt McHarg RN (8.25 am). Lt Jukic killed in the destroyed aircraft.

[a5] - Mirage IIIEA of FAA Grupo 8 shot down north of West Falkland by Flt Lt Barton RAF in No.801 Sea Harrier using Sidewinder (4.10 pm). Lt Perona ejects safely.

[a6] - Mirage IIIEA of FAA Grupo 8 damaged in same incident north of West Falkland by Lt Thomas RN in No.801 Sea Harrier using Sidewinder. Then shot down over Stanley by own AA defences (4.15 pm). and Capt Cuerva killed

[a7] - Dagger A of FAA Grupo 6 shot down over East Falkland by Flt Lt Penfold RAF in No.800 Sea Harrier using Sidewinder (4.40 pm). Lt Ardiles killed.

[a8] - Canberra B.62 of FAA Grupo 2 shot down north of Falklands by Lt Curtiss RN in No.801 Sea Harrier using Sidewinder (5.45 pm). Lt Ibanez and Gonzalez eject but are not rescued.

Sunday 2nd May
[a9] - Lynx HAS.23 of CANA 1 Esc embarked on ARA Santisima Trinidad lost in flying accident probably to north of Falklands.

[a10] - Alouette III of CANA 1 Esc lost on board ARA General Belgrano when she is torpedoed and sunk to south west of Falklands.

Monday 3rd May
[a11] - Aermacchi MB-339A of CANA 1 Esc crashes into ground near Stanley approaching airfield in bad weather (4.00 pm). Lt Benitez killed.

[a12] - Skyvan of PNA damaged by naval gunfire at Stanley on the night of 3rd/4th and not repaired.

Sunday 9th May

[a13, a14] - Two A-4C Skyhawks of FAA Grupo 4 lost. Possibly damaged by Sea Darts from HMS Coventry or crashed in bad weather, with one aircraft found on South Jason Island. Lt Casco and Lt Farias killed.

[a15] - Puma SA.330L of CAB 601 shot down over Choiseul Sound by Sea Dart fired by HMS Coventry (4.10 pm). Crew of three lost.

Wednesday 12th May
[a16, a17, a18] - Two A-4B Skyhawks of FAA Grupo 5 shot down off Stanley by Sea Wolf fired by HMS Brilliant and third aircraft hits sea trying to evade missile (1.45 pm). All three pilots, Lt Bustos, Lt Ibarlucea and Lt Nivoli killed.

[a19] - A-4B Skyhawk of FAA Grupo 5 shot down over Goose Green by own AA fire (2.25 pm). Lt Gavazzi killed.

Saturday 15th May

[a20-a25] - Six Pucaras of FAA Grupo 3; [a26-a29] - Four T-34C Mentors of CANA 4 Esc; [a30] - Skyvan of PNA, all destroyed or put out of action at Pebble Island in raid by D Sqdn SAS (early morning)

Friday 21st May

[a31] - Chinook CH-47C of CAB 601 destroyed on ground near Mount Kent by Flt Lt Hare RAF in 1(F) Sqdn Harrier GR.3 using 30mm cannon (8.00 am).

[a32] - Puma SA.330L of CAB 601 badly damaged on ground near Mount Kent in same attack by Sqdn Ldr Pook and Flt Lt Hare RAF in 1(F) Sqdn Harrier GR.3's using 30mm cannon (8.00 am). Destroyed on 26th in same position by Sqdn Ldr Pook using CBU's.

[a33] - Pucara of FAA Grupo 3 shot down over Sussex Mountains by Stinger SAM fired by D Sqdn SAS (10.00 am). Capt Benitz ejects safely.

[a34] - Dagger A of FAA Grupo 6 shot down near Fanning Head by Sea Cat fired by HMS Argonaut or Plymouth, or more likely Sea Wolf from HMS Broadsword (10.30 am). Lt Bean killed.

[a35] - Pucara of FAA Grupo 3 shot down near Darwin by Cmdr Ward RN in one of three Sea Harriers of No.801 NAS using 30mm cannon (12.10 pm). Major Tomba ejects.

[a36, a37] - Two A-4C Skyhawks of FAA Grupo 4 shot down near Chartres, West Falkland by Lt Cmdr Blissett and Lt Cmdr Thomas RN in No.800 Sea Harriers using Sidewinders (1.05 pm). Lt Lopez and Lt Manzotti killed.

[a38] - Dagger A of FAA Grupo 6 shot down near Teal River Inlet, West Falkland by Lt Cmdr Frederiksen RN in No.800 Sea Harrier using Sidewinder (2.35 pm). Lt Luna ejects.

[a39, a40, a41] - Two Dagger A's of FAA Grupo 6 shot down north of Port Howard, West Falkland by Lt Thomas and a third by Cmdr Ward RN in No.801 Sea Harriers using Sidewinders (2.50 pm). Maj Piuma, Capt Donaldille and Lt Senn all eject.

[a42] - A-4Q Skyhawk of CANA 3 Esc shot down near Swan Island in Falkland Sound by Lt Morell RN in No.800 Sea Harrier using Sidewinder (3.12 pm). Lt Cmdr Philippi ejects.

[a43] - A-4Q Skyhawk of CANA 3 Esc also shot down near Swan Island in Falkland Sound in same incident by Flt Lt Leeming RAF in No.800 Sea Harrier using 30mm cannon (3.12 pm). Lt Marquez is killed.

[a44] - A-4Q Skyhawk of CANA 3 Esc damaged over Falkland Sound by small arms fire from HMS Ardent and again in same incident as above by Lt Morrell using 30mm cannon. Unable to land at Stanley with undercarriage problems and Lt Arca ejects (3.30 pm).

Sunday 23rd May

[a45] - Puma SA.330L of CAB 601 flies into ground near Shag Cove House, West Falkland attempting to evade Flt Lt Morgan RAF in No.800 NAS Sea Harrier (10.30 am). All crew escape.

[a46] - Agusta A-109A of CAB 601 in same incident near Shag Cove House, West Falkland destroyed on ground by Flt Lt Morgan and Flt Lt Leeming RAF in No.800 NAS Sea Harriers using 30mm cannon (10.30 am).

[a47] - Puma SA.330L of CAB 601 also in same incident near Shag Cove House, West Falkland damaged on ground by Flt Lt Morgan with 30mm cannon (10.30 am). Then believed shortly destroyed by Lt Cmdr Gedge and Lt Cmdr Braithwaite RN in No.801 Sea Harriers with more cannon fire.

[a48] - A-4B Skyhawk of FAA Grupo 5 shot down over San Carlos Water by unknown SAM (1.50 pm). Claims that day include "Broadsword" Sea Wolf, "Antelope" Sea Cat, and land-based Rapiers and Blowpipe. Lt Guadagnini killed.

[a49] - Dagger A of FAA Grupo 6 shot down over Pebble Island by Lt Hale RN in No.800 Sea Harrier using Sidewinder (4.00 pm). Lt Volponi killed.

Monday 24th May

[a50, a51, a52] - Two Dagger A's of FAA Grupo 6 shot down north of Pebble Island by Lt Cmdr Auld and a third by Lt D Smith in No.800 Sea Harriers using Sidewinder (11.15 am). Maj Puga and Capt Diaz eject, but Lt Castillo killed.

[a53] - A-4C Skyhawk of FAA Grupo 4 damaged over San Carlos Water by ship and ground-based air defences and crashes into King George Bay, West Falkland on flight home (1.30 pm). Claims that day include "Argonaut" and "Fearless" Sea Cat, and Rapier and Blowpipe SAM's. Lt Bono lost.

Tuesday 25th May

[a54] - A-4B Skyhawk of FAA Grupo 5 shot down north of Pebble Island by Sea Dart fired by HMS Coventry (9.30 am). Lt Palaver killed.

[a55] - A-4C Skyhawk of FAA Grupo 4 destroyed over San Carlos Water by a variety of weapons, claims including small arms fire, "Yarmouth" Sea Cat, and Rapier and Blowpipe SAM's (12.30 pm). Lt Lucero ejects.

[a56] - A-4C Skyhawk of FAA Grupo 4 damaged over San Carlos Water in same attack, and then brought down north east of Pebble Island by Sea Dart fired by HMS Coventry (12.45 am). Lt Garcia killed.

Thursday 27th May

[a57] - A-4B Skyhawk of FAA Grupo 5 damaged over San Carlos Water by 40mm Bofors from HMS Fearless or Intrepid, and crashes near Port Howard (5.00 pm). Lt Velasco ejects

Friday 28th May

[a58] - Pucara of FAA Grupo 3 crashes into high ground between Goose Green and Stanley returning from attack in Goose Green area (c10.00 am). Lt Giminez killed.

[a59] - Aermacchi MB-339A of CANA 1 Esc shot down at Goose Green by Blowpipe SAM fired by Royal Marine Air Defence Troop (5.00 pm). Lt Miguel killed.

[a60] - Pucara of FAA Grupo 3 shot down at Goose Green by small arms fire from 2 Para (5.10 pm). Lt Cruzado ejects and becomes POW.

Saturday 29th May
[a61] - Dagger A of FAA Grupo 6 shot down over San Carlos Water by Rapier SAM (12.00 pm]. Lt Bernhardt killed.

Sunday 30th May

[a62] - Puma SA.330L of CAB 601 lost in the morning in uncertain circumstances near Mount Kent, possibly to own forces fire.

[a63, a64] - Two A-4C Skyhawks of FAA Grupo 4 shot down east of Falklands by Sea Darts fired by HMS Exeter, although 4.5 inch gunfire from HMS Avenger may have hit one (2.35 pm). Lt Vazquez and Lt Castillo killed.

Tuesday 1st June

[a65] - Hercules C.130E of FAA Transport Grupo 1 shot down 50 miles North of Pebble Island by Cmdr Ward RN in No.801 Sea Harrier using Sidewinder and 30mm cannon (10.45 am). Crew of seven killed.

Monday 7th June

[a66] - Learjet 35A of FAA Photo-Reconnaissance Grupo 1 shot down over Pebble Island by Sea Dart fired by HMS Exeter (9.05 am). Wing Cmdr de la Colina and crew of four killed.

Tuesday 8th June

[a67, a68, a69] - Two A-4B Skyhawks of FAA Grupo 5 shot down over Choiseul Sound by Flt Lt Morgan RAF and a third by Lt D Smith in No.800 NAS Sea Harriers using Sidewinders (4.45 pm). Lt Arraras, Lt Bolzan and Ensign Vazquez killed.

Sunday 13th June

[a70] - Canberra B.62 of FAA Grupo 2 shot down west of Stanley by Sea Dart fired by HMS Exeter (10.55 pm). Pilot, Capt Pastran ejects safely but Capt Casado is killed.

Postwar - Captured at Stanley

[a71-a81] - Eleven Pucaras of FAA Grupo 3

[a82-a83] - Two Bell 212's of FAA Grupo 7

[a84-a86] - Three Aermacchi MB-339A's of CANA 1 Esc

[a87] - Puma SA.330L of PNA

[a88] - Chinook CH-47C of CAB 601

[a89-a90] - Two Agusta A-109A Hirundos of CAB 601

[a91-a99] - Nine Iroquois UH-1H's of CAB 601

Unknown Date

[a100] - Pucara of FAA Grupo 4 reported lost over in the Atlantic on reconnaissance mission from Comodoro Rivadavia.
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British Aircraft lost below:-

Thursday 22nd April

[b1, b2] - Two Wessex HU.5's of C Flt, No.845 NAS, RFA Tidespring crash on Fortuna Glacier, South Georgia in bad weather. All crew rescued.

Friday 23rd April

[b3] - Sea King HC.4 of No.846 NAS embarked on HMS Hermes crashes into the Atlantic at night in bad weather south west of Ascension (8.15 pm). Pilot rescued but PO Aircrewman Casey lost.

Tuesday 4th May
[b4] - Sea Harrier of No.800 NAS, HMS Hermes shot down over Goose Green by radar-controlled, 35mm Oerlikon fire (1.10 pm). Lt Taylor RN killed.

Thursday 6th May

[b5, b6] - Two Sea Harriers of No.801 NAS, HMS Invincible lost in bad weather, presumably by collision, south east of Falklands (9.00 am). Lt Curtiss and Lt Cmdr Eyton-Jones RN lost.

Wednesday 12th May

[b7] - Sea King HAS.5 of No.826 NAS, HMS Hermes ditches in sea with engine failure east of Falklands (2.35 pm). All crew rescued.

Monday 17th May

[b8] - Sea King HAS.5 of No.826 NAS, HMS Hermes, then to the east of Falklands, hits the sea late at night because of altimeter problems (10.30 pm). All crew rescued.

18th/19th May

[b9] - Sea King HC.4 of No.846 NAS deliberately destroyed by its crew near Punta Arenas, southern Chile around this date.

Wednesday 19th May

[b10] - Sea King HC.4 of No.846 NAS, then embarked on HMS Hermes crashes into sea north east of Falklands, believed at the time due to a bird strike although this is now open to doubt (7.15 pm). Of 30 men on board, the aircrewman, 18 men of the SAS, a member of the Royal Signals and the only RAF man killed in the war are all lost. The two pilots are saved.

Friday 21st May

[b11, b12] - Two Gazelles of C Flt, 3 CBAS shot down by small arms fire near Port San Carlos (c8.45 am). Pilot Sgt Evans RM killed in the first incident and pilot Lt Francis RM and crewman L/Cpl Griffin RM in the second.

[b13] - Harrier GR.3 of 1(F) Sqdn RAF shot down over Port Howard, West Falkland probably by Blowpipe SAM (9.35 am). Flt Lt Glover ejects and injured, is taken prisoner-of-war.

[b14] - Lynx HAS.2 of No.815 NAS destroyed in bombing attack on HMS Ardent in Grantham Sound by Daggers of FAA Grupo 6 (2.40 pm).

Sunday 23rd May

[b15] - Sea Harrier of No.800 NAS, HMS Hermes crashes into sea north east of Falklands shortly after take-off and explodes (7.55 pm). Lt Cmdr Batt RN killed.

Tuesday 25th May

[b16] - Lynx HAS.2 of No.815 NAS lost when HMS Coventry sunk north of Pebble Island in bombing attack by A-4B Skyhawks of FAA Grupo 5 (3.20 pm).

[b17 - b22] - Six Wessex HU.5's of No.848 NAS D Flt; [b23 - b25] - Three Chinook HC.1's of 18 Sqdn RAF; [b26] - Lynx HAS.2 of No.815 NAS, all destroyed by fire when "Atlantic Conveyor" hit to the north east of Falklands by Exocet from Super Etendard of CANA 2 Esc.

Thursday 27th May

[b27] - Harrier GR.3 of 1(F) Sqdn RAF shot down over Goose Green probably by 35mm Oerlikon fire (1.35 pm). Sqdn Ldr Iveson ejects to the west, hides up and is later rescued.

Friday 28th May

[b28] - Scout of B Flight, 3 CBAS shot down near Camilla Creek House, north of Goose Green by Pucaras of FAA Grupo 3 (11.55 am). Pilot Lt Nunn RM is killed.

Saturday 29th May

[b29] - Sea Harrier of No.801 NAS, HMS Invincible ready for take-off, slides off the deck as the carrier turns into wind to the east of Falklands (3.50 pm). Lt Cmdr Broadwater RN ejects and is safely picked up.

Sunday 30th May

[b30] - Harrier GR.3 of 1(F) Sqdn RAF damaged near Stanley by small arms fire from Argentine troops. Runs out of fuel short of "Hermes" and Sqdn Ldr Pook RAF ejects to be picked up to east of the Falklands (12.20 pm).

Tuesday 1st June

[b31] - Sea Harrier of No.801 NAS, HMS Invincible shot down south of Stanley by Roland SAM (2.40 pm). Flt Lt Mortimer RAF ejects and is later rescued from the sea.

Sunday 6th June

[b32] - Gazelle of 656 AAC Sqdn accidentally shot down west of Fitzroy by Sea Dart SAM fired by HMS Cardiff (1.10 am). Pilot, Staff Sgt Griffin, crewman L/Cpl ****ton and two Royal Signals passengers killed.

Tuesday 8th June

[b33] - Harrier GR.3 of 1(F) Sqdn RAF lands heavily at Port San Carlos with partial engine failure, and is damaged beyond repair (12.00 pm). Wing Cmdr Squire escapes unhurt.

Saturday 12th June

[b34] - Wessex HAS.3 of No.737 NAS destroyed when HMS Glamorgan hit by land-based Exocet off Stanley (3.35 am).
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