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Old 08-15-2005, 08:04 PM
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yup the 2 latest pictures you posted were definitley royal marines

i also have 1 book of the royal marines and 1 book of the SAS and they both have this one picture and one book says they are royal marines and the other says they are SAS
I've noticed this before in books ,pictures claiming to be one thing when they are not .I found the ones you are not sure of at the MOD website .So they are legit ..

I think the confusion with the SAS and the Royal Marines is brought about by the use of the M16 .People forget the Commando's use them as well .

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Old 08-15-2005, 10:05 PM
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Old 08-15-2005, 10:14 PM
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Ghurkas provide the Band music at football game in Kabul.
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Old 08-15-2005, 10:33 PM
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I remember reading that the MOD let the Argies know that the Ghurkas would be part of the British forces coming to liberate the Falklands. The Argentinian soldiers on the ground were demoralised enough to know the task force was coming, When they found out about the Ghurkas, their moral dropped even further. Most nations forces fear them, and with bloody good reason.
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Old 08-15-2005, 11:26 PM
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Colonel Tim Collins' speech to around 800 men of the battlegroup of the 1st Battalion of the [url="http://www.army.mod.uk/royalirish/"]Royal Irish Regiment[/url], part of the [url="http://www.army.mod.uk/16_aaslt_bde/"]16 Air Assault Brigade[/url] given at their Fort Blair Mayne camp in the Kuwaiti desert about 20 miles from the Iraqi border on Wednesday 19 March 2003.

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Seventy-five per cent of his officers are from Ireland, but he is also in charge of a company of Gurkhas and soldiers from Fiji, Antigua, St Vincent, South Africa, Australia and Canada. The Northern Ireland-based Royal Irish Regiment is 40 percent Catholics from the Irish Republic.

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We go to liberate, not to conquer.
We will not fly our flags in their country
We are entering Iraq to free a people and the only flag which will be flown in that ancient land is their own.
Show respect for them.
There are some who are alive at this moment who will not be alive shortly.
Those who do not wish to go on that journey, we will not send.
As for the others, I expect you to rock their world.
Wipe them out if that is what they choose.
But if you are ferocious in battle remember to be magnanimous in victory.

Iraq is steeped in history.
It is the site of the Garden of Eden, of the Great Flood and the birthplace of Abraham.
Tread lightly there.

You will see things that no man could pay to see
-- and you will have to go a long way to find a more decent, generous and upright people than the Iraqis.
You will be embarrassed by their hospitality even though they have nothing.

Don't treat them as refugees for they are in their own country.
Their children will be poor, in years to come they will know that the light of liberation in their lives was brought by you.

If there are casualties of war then remember that when they woke up and got dressed in the morning they did not plan to die this day.
Allow them dignity in death.
Bury them properly and mark their graves.

It is my foremost intention to bring every single one of you out alive.
But there may be people among us who will not see the end of this campaign.
We will put them in their sleeping bags and send them back.
There will be no time for sorrow.

The enemy should be in no doubt that we are his nemesis and that we are bringing about his rightful destruction.
There are many regional commanders who have stains on their souls and they are stoking the fires of hell for Saddam.
He and his forces will be destroyed by this coalition for what they have done.
As they die they will know their deeds have brought them to this place. Show them no pity.

It is a big step to take another human life.
It is not to be done lightly.
I know of men who have taken life needlessly in other conflicts.
I can assure you they live with the mark of Cain upon them.

If someone surrenders to you then remember they have that right in international law and ensure that one day they go home to their family.
The ones who wish to fight, well, we aim to please.

If you harm the regiment or its history by over-enthusiasm in killing or in cowardice, know it is your family who will suffer.
You will be shunned unless your conduct is of the highest -- for your deeds will follow you down through history.
We will bring shame on neither our uniform or our nation.

(On Saddam's chemical and biological weapons.)

It is not a question of if, it's a question of when.
We know he has already devolved the decision to lower commanders, and that means he has already taken the decision himself.
If we survive the first strike we will survive the attack.

As for ourselves, let's bring everyone home and leave Iraq a better place for us having been there.

Our business now is north.

Copyright Tim Collins, 2003
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no the royal marine commandos do not use m16's
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no the royal marine commandos do not use m16's
yes they do .In the main they use the SA 80 .But as you can quite clearly see in these two pics taken in Afghanistan of 45 commando . Some of the troops are using M16's.They are on 45 Commandos website !
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yes they might use them for shooting practice every now and then but it is part of the MOD's rule that non-special forces MUST use the stnadard issue rifle for warfare
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Old 08-17-2005, 06:50 AM
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yes they might use them for shooting practice every now and then but it is part of the MOD's rule that non-special forces MUST use the stnadard issue rifle for warfare
Right ,now your making a good case . Do you have any info on these rules of engagement ?
I have found other pics claiming to be 45 commando on the website and they are definately in combat using M16s .No clear markings as to who they are though . From what you've said there is only one conclusion .They are SBS or some other Amphibious combat wing attached to the Marines....... Try and keep an open mind ,you'll be surprised what you can find out . The MOD doesn't admit to everything that goes on !
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no i did not get the info about the rules of engagement because i got it from a book,and seriously the commandos do not use M16's

but the SBS and SAS do because they turned down the M16 and said it was **** to the MOD
also they turned down the booklet for battle and warfare skills which include everything a soldier needs to know , they turned it down because they operate at their own made up skills and make it up their own way which might be the reason to their major success on the bettlefield
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