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Old 12-03-2008, 11:24 AM
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HMS Victorious (R38) was the second Illustrious class aircraft carrier ordered under the 1936 Naval Programme. She was laid down at the Vickers-Armstrong shipyard at Newcastle-Upon-Tyne in 1937, and launched just two years later in time for the start of World War II in 1939. Her commissioning was delayed, however, until 1941 due to the urgent need for escort vessels for service in the Battle of the Atlantic.

Her service in 1941 and 1942 included famous actions against the battleship Bismarck, several Arctic convoys and the Pedestal convoy to Malta. The elimination of the German naval threat allowed her redeployment first to the Eastern Fleet at Colombo and then to the Pacific for the final actions of the war against Japan.

Check out the 3rd pic below....it was hit by 3 kamikazes
Good stuff Jrj, I notice the jets aboard on one of the pics, when was she decommisioned?

British carriers were slower than the US equivalent because they had armoured flight decks. While the US used wooden flight decks. This enabled the British carrier to stay in theatre longer and consequently take more punishment!
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Old 12-03-2008, 02:38 PM
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Well thats what the yanks were good at, building things that could be mass produced. Quantity over quality did win the day. Those Liberty boats were another example. Lethal if you were on one when hit by a torpedo, but they did the job!
well the Submarine warfear was quite fatal to the direction or another.
we didn't have that many of thease, but for those who are interested,
[URL="http://users.tkk.fi/~jaromaa/Navygallery/Submarines/submarines.htm"]have an article to read...[/URL]

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Old 12-06-2008, 05:59 AM
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Good stuff Jrj, I notice the jets aboard on one of the pics, when was she decommisioned?

British carriers were slower than the US equivalent because they had armoured flight decks. While the US used wooden flight decks. This enabled the British carrier to stay in theatre longer and consequently take more punishment!
I noticed those modern type aircraft aswell....it was Decommisioned in 1968 acording to Wikipedia...it also had a large refit in the 1950s..the well protected decks were a good thing in my opinion...but like everything eles you give and take...the better armour ment slower ship...you cany have it all ways
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Old 12-06-2008, 06:13 AM
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well the Submarine warfear was quite fatal to the direction or another.
we didn't have that many of thease, but for those who are interested,
[URL="http://users.tkk.fi/~jaromaa/Navygallery/Submarines/submarines.htm"]have an article to read...[/URL]


You didnt have many Torps but as you guys normally do you put them to good use and they must have been hard to navigate in that georgrapthy

We the British had and still maintain a half decent sized submarine fleet....but would would you expect from a....as you once put it "A country that only goes to war for its own ends and a country that has empirial designs on everything and everyone

We have to keep a large navy to keep our empire dream alive....isnt that right Torps
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Old 12-06-2008, 06:29 AM
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LOL....Priceless....altogether now..."We all live in a yellow submarine".....we all live in a yella submarine
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well the Submarine warfear was quite fatal to the direction or another.
we didn't have that many of thease, but for those who are interested,
[URL="http://users.tkk.fi/~jaromaa/Navygallery/Submarines/submarines.htm"]have an article to read...[/URL]

wow Torps, I guess that one didnt make it to the great blue see before the big freeze eh!!....
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Wow, thats a cross between Greenpeace and the Beatles....
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We have to keep a large navy to keep our empire dream alive....isnt that right Torps
you and your British empire... yep. well you do have a deacent navy allright, and the submarines are not that bad aither.


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wow Torps, I guess that one didnt make it to the great blue see before the big freeze eh!!....
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Good bit of info Torspo.

It was the Finnish shipyards that built the German submarines after WW1. Germany was barred from having submarines in the treaty of Versailles, So it continued design work and had prototypes etc built in Finland under German super vision. It also was barred from having an airforce. Consequently training of pilots took place in Russia. and so on. As Hitler came to power more work was done in Germany in secret, but as the years rolled by it became increasiingly hard to conseal Factories and shipyards with one purpose!
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