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Old 05-24-2009, 05:41 PM
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stay in for 17 more years, deal with crap and retire at 47 or get out and try and find a good paying job? my goodness, why can't i like the army and want to stay in for a long time? nothing is cut and dry for me ever! i know there are but what are some mos'es that are like you're in the army but not really in the army. you see them, they're in the army but don't have to do any of the crap you have to do or put up with. they look as if they thoroughly enjoy the army. any mos ideas? i'm 14 series and would rather use a cheese grader on my you know what than stay in ADA. what a waste of a mos.
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Old 05-24-2009, 06:38 PM
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stay in for 17 more years, deal with crap and retire at 47 or get out and try and find a good paying job? my goodness, why can't i like the army and want to stay in for a long time? nothing is cut and dry for me ever! i know there are but what are some mos'es that are like you're in the army but not really in the army. you see them, they're in the army but don't have to do any of the crap you have to do or put up with. they look as if they thoroughly enjoy the army. any mos ideas? i'm 14 series and would rather use a cheese grader on my you know what than stay in ADA. what a waste of a mos.
I really think that only you can answer that, you seem pretty bitter and we don't know you well enough to advise you on what you "might" like. Do you have something to fall back on to get a good paying job? Some education? Job skills?

Have you talked to your retention NCO to see if you have the option to reclass if you reenlist?
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Old 05-24-2009, 07:39 PM
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You certainly have a lot of options. With 3 years' service, you qualify for the new post 9-11 GI Bill, so you can get a degree if that is what you want. Or, you can decide to stay in. It's your call - but be advised, you can have a bad experience in a civilian job as easy as in the military.

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You certainly have a lot of options. With 3 years' service, you qualify for the new post 9-11 GI Bill, so you can get a degree if that is what you want. Or, you can decide to stay in. It's your call - but be advised, you can have a bad experience in a civilian job as easy as in the military.

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Old 05-25-2009, 04:52 AM
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I've HAD worst experience in civilian jobs than I ever had in the Army. People are more petty, drunk with what little power they have & suffer from jealousy. Very seldom is there a one big happy family & although in every "mission statement" (stupid, right? They always have to have a mission statement)) they always invoke teammanship. They wouldn't know about working as a team if it came down from heaven & struck them.

The closest I came to decent military type conditions was in Security, a sort of paramilitary organization.

Bgd - Please see a counselor or Chaplain. You have classic signs of PTSD or just plain depression. Don't do anything stupid like blowing your brains out. It could be a lot of factors going into play. Your dislike of your job, your MOS, your unit, your leadership, & the Army in general. Put that all together with a deployment under crushingly boring conditions & you are ripe for it.

Doc - do you agree? Go back & read his posts. I'm worried about him.
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stay in for 17 more years, deal with crap and retire at 47 or get out and try and find a good paying job? my goodness, why can't i like the army and want to stay in for a long time? nothing is cut and dry for me ever! i know there are but what are some mos'es that are like you're in the army but not really in the army. you see them, they're in the army but don't have to do any of the crap you have to do or put up with. they look as if they thoroughly enjoy the army. any mos ideas? i'm 14 series and would rather use a cheese grader on my you know what than stay in ADA. what a waste of a mos.


I thought you were just a moaner letting off some steam..however a few days down the line and you still seem very unhappy in yet another post/thread.

With the experience I have... which compared to others on these boards is a drop in the ocean...it sounds like you may have some level of depression.Dont let it carry on without seeing someone.... it will only get worst.

Take our MSGs advice and see a counselor ASAP

Ride it out mate...Dig in and ride it out.I apologize for jumping the gun and calling you a moaner...it seems you have genuine problems and concerns

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I've HAD worst experience in civilian jobs than I ever had in the Army. People are more petty, drunk with what little power they have & suffer from jealousy. Very seldom is there a one big happy family & although in every "mission statement" (stupid, right? They always have to have a mission statement)) they always invoke teammanship. They wouldn't know about working as a team if it came down from heaven & struck them.

The closest I came to decent military type conditions was in Security, a sort of paramilitary organization.

Bgd - Please see a counselor or Chaplain. You have classic signs of PTSD or just plain depression. Don't do anything stupid like blowing your brains out. It could be a lot of factors going into play. Your dislike of your job, your MOS, your unit, your leadership, & the Army in general. Put that all together with a deployment under crushingly boring conditions & you are ripe for it.

Doc - do you agree? Go back & read his posts. I'm worried about him.
I am fine! I don't have PTSD from watching broke *** detainees from 30 feet up! I just put it out there like it is. I don't make things up, I don't fabricate and I am not delusional and can think rationally. I am not brainwashed by the Army like so many pathetic people are and they don't even know it! That is sad! I've finished college, I've worked in the real world. I'll even go into depth. I got **** canned from my job in 2006 April unrightfully so. You can email my buddy Jesse if you'd like his email and he would confirm it was unjust! Just ask for the email. At first I was pissed but then after a few days I wasn't. It was like a vacation and I did have a little money. Besides I'll find another job soon. April turned into May, then Aug and finally it was 2007. I started to look online on army.com and chatted with a online recruiter and finally worked up enough nerve to go in person. Here we are three years later 14 months in this god forsaken country with this godforsaken unit! But back to what I was saying, even though I was fired I still didn't dislike, hate or have great disdain towards my boss, job or life! It was much better than what I have now or am experiencing now. Don't worry about me, maybe you should be talking with the pussies that left months ago that took our numbers down so we had to work like ****ing dogs until the last possible breathing minute out here! Hell the 1sg even had the audacity to tell an Sr. E-6 that we've got a lot of work ahead of us back home so we're probably going to have to work weekends! After a 15 month deployment! I just imagine him and want to butt stroke him repeatedly until he can't see straight forever! He singles handily ruined this deployment for a whole battery. Not everyone, cause there are shammers that always sham and always will. Like people that work at the CP and got to do all of their choirs like go to the gym, px, take laundry in or whatever they needed to do while on their so called 12 hour shift! Think my stank *** was able to do that while I was down on the compound? Hell no, I had to do that after my 12 hour shift! All of that ****! They've been doing this the whole time! Who's letting them get away with this? Hmm? I'll give you one guess, ding, ding, ding you guessed it. The one, the only 1SG! I am getting so worked up even talking about this crap. I get pissed when I see all of these new people walking around. They are all lost in the sause, they don't know **** from apple butter. It's so hot, it's so this and that! How about us, our second damn summer in the dump. Not to mention unit after unit leaving before us that got hear months after us! You want to know that funny thing? We had to take people from our battery our one f-ing battery when the brought a brigade over here to help them out so they wouldn't go to a 6 days on and 1 day off! Yeah, that's right. Hell, I was one of the lucky few that got drafted to go help them out. I didn't mind so much to be honest, it got my away from the wretched people I have to work with day in and day out. But this is what was funny, they made me work 5 days on and 1 day off while everyone else was working a 3 and 1. Nice, thanks New Jersey! Please send me a care package while you're on the sandy beaches of the Jersey shore line! Enjoy! I could go on, but I have to talk to my wife that I don't even really feel like talking to right now. She complains to me. Can you believe that? No one back home understands ****! I haven't even brushed my teeth in two days. My mouth tastes good!
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Old 05-25-2009, 12:05 PM
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I'm tellin' you man- see a counselor. Sure you feel fine but you have all the classic signs of depression, not necessarily PTSD. You've gotta admit that you're not the happiest pilgrim in the wagon train. If all of this schit is gnawing at you to the point where you don't even brush your teeth then it's time to get some professional advice or care. Letting your hygiene slip a tad is a sign of depression. Believe me. Are you eating good? The food lousy so you have a good excuse of not eating? How about sleeping patterns?

Please believe me. You might be keeping it all inside so your leadership doesn't notice (or doesn't care). This is bad. At least see a Chaplain. He'll at least keep it as privileged information. I don't care if you're an atheist but Chaplains are specifically trained to counsel & advise in the secular as well as the spiritual & also can see the onslaught of any problems that may be rising. I've had enough training as a team leader, squad leader, platoon Sgt & 1SG in at least be able to recognize certain signs & seek advice from professional health care specialists so I can either give more useful advice or send him up the chain.

Again - believe me. You're showing classic signs. It may never get as far as eating a pistol but it can sure play havoc on your well being.
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I'm tellin' you man- see a counselor. Sure you feel fine but you have all the classic signs of depression, not necessarily PTSD. You've gotta admit that you're not the happiest pilgrim in the wagon train. If all of this schit is gnawing at you to the point where you don't even brush your teeth then it's time to get some professional advice or care. Letting your hygiene slip a tad is a sign of depression. Believe me. Are you eating good? The food lousy so you have a good excuse of not eating? How about sleeping patterns?

Please believe me. You might be keeping it all inside so your leadership doesn't notice (or doesn't care). This is bad. At least see a Chaplain. He'll at least keep it as privileged information. I don't care if you're an atheist but Chaplains are specifically trained to counsel & advise in the secular as well as the spiritual & also can see the onslaught of any problems that may be rising. I've had enough training as a team leader, squad leader, platoon Sgt & 1SG in at least be able to recognize certain signs & seek advice from professional health care specialists so I can either give more useful advice or send him up the chain.

Again - believe me. You're showing classic signs. It may never get as far as eating a pistol but it can sure play havoc on your well being.
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