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Old 08-21-2005, 05:00 PM
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Default The arab army

I hear people talking about chineese american russian french german armies but there are other countries wich have powerfoul armies but don't show it, for wxample the egyptian army is really powerfoul, so is the Jordanian and soudi arabian army, and they have an advanatge the religion wich makes them do anything, what do you think???
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Old 08-22-2005, 02:46 AM
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these armies are made with very good equipments, recent and powerful. But as far as i'm concerned it's most prestige stuff and royal toys than an efficient and a real army.
Emir, Kings, Cheichk like a lot "procession" and "parade".
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There are one or two Arab countries with a decent military but even they have relatively antiquated equipment. And remember too, the Arab countries and Iran are virtually nuetralised now by the prescence of western forces, and of course, the regional super-power, Israel. Some Arab nations would be able to put up a stiff defence but that's all, Even if, and that's a big if, the main Arab countries fought as a group, they would still be at a disadvantage to Israel and its western technology. The Arabs biggest curse in history is their oil.
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There are one or two Arab countries with a decent military but even they have relatively antiquated equipment. And remember too, the Arab countries and Iran are virtually nuetralised now by the prescence of western forces, and of course, the regional super-power, Israel. Some Arab nations would be able to put up a stiff defence but that's all, Even if, and that's a big if, the main Arab countries fought as a group, they would still be at a disadvantage to Israel and its western technology. The Arabs biggest curse in history is their oil.
You may have to clarify that last bit Kurusch.
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The Arab states were occupied when the oil was 'discovered'. From that day, the Western foot was on them. South America, as Pappy says, suffered from different problems, mainly internal and then western (American) interference.
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The Arab states were occupied when the oil was 'discovered'. From that day, the Western foot was on them. South America, as Pappy says, suffered from different problems, mainly internal and then western (American) interference.
Gaining access to mineral resources was always the primary objective of the British Empire . Since the discovery of oil in the Middle East in 1908, western powers have sought dominance over the regionís resources. the creation of the Turkish Petroleum Company in 1911 by the UK, the Netherlands and Germany was the start of a continuing story !
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Gaining access to mineral resources was always the primary objective of the British Empire . Since the discovery of oil in the Middle East in 1908, western powers have sought dominance over the regionís resources. the creation of the Turkish Petroleum Company in 1911 by the UK, the Netherlands and Germany was the start of a continuing story !
Exactly. In any debate / discussion, knowledge of the history of the subject is essential.
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Exactly. In any debate / discussion, knowledge of the history of the subject is essential.
The race for oil or this war on terror boils down to one question .Do you want to come first or Second ?
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The race for oil or this war on terror boils down to one question .Do you want to come first or Second ?
Tex, that's too easy. Forget the 'war on terror', there's no such thing. There's no race for oil or any other energy. It's there, we know how to get it. There was a time when we were prepared to pay a decent price for it. Now we kill for it. Of course, 'we' pay for it with the lives of our troops too.
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:45 PM
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Tex, that's too easy. Forget the 'war on terror', there's no such thing. There's no race for oil or any other energy. It's there, we know how to get it. There was a time when we were prepared to pay a decent price for it. Now we kill for it. Of course, 'we' pay for it with the lives of our troops too.
The only reason we are in Iraq really is to control the price of oil (long term).
Would you rather be dictated to by a bunch of our Middle east freinds ?
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