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bdmach1 02-06-2009 11:51 PM

MOS for fulltime job
 
Can anyone tell me which MOS are more likely to be a fulltime slot once I am done with AIT? I haven't enlisted yet but I want to make sure I select the right one because I do not want to be a weekend warrior.

Thanks

MSG Glenn 02-07-2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bdmach1 (Post 75253)
Can anyone tell me which MOS are more likely to be a fulltime slot once I am done with AIT? I haven't enlisted yet but I want to make sure I select the right one because I do not want to be a weekend warrior.

Thanks

If you don't want to be a part-timer then you have to enlist in the Active Duty Army. There's no law that says you have to be a Reservist or Guardsman.

If you have some reason that you have to be in the National Guard then get a contract that allows you to pull active duty for 4 years first or that will allow you to serve full time in the AGR (Active Guard/Reserve) program at your Guard unit. They'll decide which MOS you have to have in order to be a full time Guardsman.

Your best bet is to get into the Regular Army, chose the MOS you want, serve your time & then finish off your 8 year obligation in the Guard or Reserve. Active duty time will get you more education benefits under the Montgomery GI Bill & possibly a bigger bonus.

See an Active Army Recruiter at a Recruiting Station, not a National Guard Recruiter who can only enlist you in the Guard. You can enlist for 2, 3, 4 or 6 years of active duty. The 2 year plan begins after your training so it'll be a bit longer.

bdmach1 02-07-2009 12:51 PM

I like the fact of the guard being stateside for family and helping out in times of crisis or natural disasters. And yes I would try for the AGR for a fulltime spot what does the PT prior to getting into basic consist of this way I can train harded to pass at a higher level for my age group like you had sugested in a previous post of mine. And thank you by the way being extremely helpfull.

Wayne

MSG Glenn 02-07-2009 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bdmach1 (Post 75266)
I like the fact of the guard being stateside for family and helping out in times of crisis or natural disasters. And yes I would try for the AGR for a fulltime spot what does the PT prior to getting into basic consist of this way I can train harded to pass at a higher level for my age group like you had sugested in a previous post of mine. And thank you by the way being extremely helpfull.

Wayne

You can find the APFT requirements for your age group via Google under "APFT". As a start do lots of running. Go 2, 3, or 4 miles to enable you to do the 2 mile standard easier. Start doing push-ups & sit-ups every time a commercial comes on TV while watching. Ask your Recruiter if you can take some classes & if he can administer a PT test to enable you to enter the Army one rank higher. The APFT consist of a 2 mile run, 2 minutes of push-ups & 2 minutes of sit-ups. Also be prepared to do pull-ups in basic. (Not included in the APFT)

Bear in mind that there aren't a whole lot of AGR slots available. You might not be able to get a slot as a lower ranking soldier. When I was an Active Army Advisor to a Reserve Division most AGRs were SSG & SFC with a few SGTs & officers. They need seasoned & qualified people to run the Guard unit on a day-to-day basis. With the job situation as it is my guess is a lot of Guardsmen NCOs have applied & been accepted to fill any open positions. You'll have to see a National Guard Recruiter & ask him about availability of AGR positions & if he can possibly get you a contract then go for it.

Also you have to realize that National Guard units get activated & deployed. As a matter of fact count on it. Most of the Army National Guard is Combat Arms so deployment is imminent. You might not be at home for your whole enlistment or even stateside. Active duty for a call-up is usually 15 months with 12 months actually deployed. Our WI Army Guard's 32nd Infantry Brigade is going in a few months, all 3300 of them. They're slated to go to Iraq but with the pull-out I wouldn't be surprised if they went to Afghanistan instead.

If you went Active Army or if you can get an Active First contract in the Guard you can still serve in the Guard after your active duty time & you'll probably be a SGT or close to it.

Every enlistment is different so get with your Recruiter & see if he can hammer out a contract that you want.

You'll still be a "Weekend Warrior" if you aren't able to work full time in your unit drilling one weekend a month & two weeks a year of annual training. I'll say it again - the only MOSs you can get are the ones that they can use in your Guard unit either part time or full time. It wouldn't do you any good to be a Tanker when all they can use are Infantrymen.

bdmach1 02-07-2009 04:59 PM

MOS choices
 
I have interest in the following MOS's What do you think the chances are for fulltime active guard these would have?


MOS 21M Firefighter I am an ex firefighter also

MOS 63B Light wheel mechanic,

MOS 21E

And I believe there is a HR specialist but I can't find the MOS

MSG Glenn 02-07-2009 06:53 PM

HR Specialist is MOS 42A. A related MOS is 42L, Administration Specialist.

You'll have to check with a National Guard Recruiter to see which MOSs are needed for full time positions in a Guard unit in your area. Chances are they need at least one of those that you're looking at but then you have to see if there are any full time vacancies in any of those MOSs.

My guess is that Firefighter would be the least needed. Most Guard Armories are located in urban areas & the local fire department would handle them. I can't see any Guard unit needing a full time Heavy Equipment Operator, either.

Armygirl4Ever 02-08-2009 09:27 AM

I would recommend looking to see what types of units are in the area you currently reside and see what their main makeup is as far as jobs go. Realistically, the chances of going to BCT/AIT and then getting a full time slot are very slim. They are going to pull people with experience before selecting a Soldier just out of training.

Another option that you could look into is a technician position. These are the civilian counterparts in a Reserve/NG unit. They are Soldiers in the same unit but work as civilians during the week and then drill on the weekends with the rest of the unit. Sometimes the pay is higher and you receive benefits as well. Depending on your experience this could be a better option. This is often known as dual status and one of the requirements would be that you would have to be serving in the reserves/National Guard in order to keep this job.

mikeSD1986 02-09-2009 08:49 AM

in our state FT officers are needed bad. also ive also found paperwork or recruiting are the easiest things to get to be full time at. but u cant enlist to be a recruiter


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